William Corgan Says There’s Not Enough Enthusiasm To Do Smashing Pumpkins 25th Anniversary Shows

In the final part of Crestfallen‘s new interview with Smashing Pumpkins frontman William Corgan, William said that the Smashing Pumpkins 25th anniversary shows that he talked about a couple of months ago likely will not happen:

“Probably not happening. I considered doing it in different forms. There’s things I’d like to say that would only get me in trouble, so I’m not going to say them. Just not the level of enthusiasm I need to see, and that’s not fans I don’t want to put that on fans. I didn’t go read somebody’s blog, it’s internal stuff that’s just kind of boring that nobody wants to hear about. Again I think it’s just symptomatic of a namby-pamby world.”

“Smashing Pumpkins is just not meant to be that stone that you roll over kind of easy. If the weight falls on my shoulder that it can only exist in the way that I want it to if I’m better than I’ve ever been well, then I can accept that. If I’m defeated by that than that’s okay, it just means that one round was enough. But I don’t like the idea of opening for the artist that doesn’t have the same love and respect for it as I do, I don’t get that. I don’t see that as a good career move, I don’t see that as my destiny. It’s just not going to happen, I’d rather just sit here and watch the dogs chase imaginary rabbits dreaming. That’s a good bootleg title for anyone listening.”

  • Shoeglazer

    My god… how does this guy sleep at night with the weight of the entire world sitting on top of his big bald head? Poor ol narcissist…

  • Shadow on the Sun

    My 2 month old son doesn’t whine and cry as much as this guy.

  • Big M

    I’d be really enthusiastic if they showed up to play a 25th anniversary show in my hometown, whatever their lineup is. But like he said, it’s not about the fans.

  • Chris J.

    Man, love you BC and SP till death do us part… But Billy, shut the fuck up and make some music. SP is as great as they can be in “2013”/these times, and even if we had the original lineup, people don’t hold music as high as they use to, so nobody is moved like they use to be, it’s not life changing, we have internet now, edginess doesn’t matter to anyone, and the mystique is nowhere to be found… I want the 90’s again just because the people in the world were cooler/more receptive, and a hell of a lot more into music. Music thrived, but now technology does. People want it now, so they can forget it tomorrow and just find something else to use for that moment in time before moving onto something else the next day. Shallow. Hollow…

  • Raj

    Man, this guy is like interviewed everyday. Maybe to see what he will say next. If he does these 25th anniversary shows how does that make him not be a nostalgia act like the other 90’s bands he talks about?
    A different format, maybe he wants to do an acoustic set and the promoters nixed it or he wants to completely change the arrangements of the biggest hits. If you ain’t happy doing it do it anymore, Cobain wasn’t happy doing it anymore, he stopped, but not in the way any of us wanted him to. It seems to hard to walk away but do it if you have to or step away until you can enjoy it again. Don’t be miserable William.

  • John Q Rotten

    Billy (no, I will not call him “William” just because he suddenly- in his 40’s- decided he doesn’t like being called “Billy”) just can’t deal with the fact that the Pumpkins will never again achieve the level of popularity they enjoyed in the ’90s. He fails to realize that music has changed and NOBODY in rock will ever achieve that level of success again. People buy tracks not albums and when you only invest $1.99 in a band (or nothing at all) that thing becomes disposable. In the ’90s cd’s (or cassettes or LP’s) were treasured possessions. You read the liner notes and looked at the artwork. Now you just download a track, listen to it a few times and forget about it. It’s a shame Billy is being this way because Oceania really was their best music since they reformed. So what if there wasn’t a hit single? As long as you’re still releasing good music you should continue making it.

    • Search and destroy

      I agree..I think after the solo album didn’t take off , he thought he’d just get SP back together and it would be 1996 all over again. They’ve made some decent music since re forming. Too bad he can be happy w that

  • Siva

    Chase these rabbits Corgan then reach “Mr. Anders’e’n” for a talk with ME…………..Vow 1
    Provided I become a Buddha, if in that Buddha-country of mine there should be either hell, or the animal state of existence, or the realm of hungry ghost, then may I not attain the enlightenment.

    Vow 2
    Provided I become a Buddha, if in that country of mine the beings who are born there should fall away (die) into the three evil realms, then may I not attain the enlightenment.

    Vow 3
    Provided I become a Buddha, if in that country of mine the beings who are born there should not all be of the colour of genuine gold, then may I not attain the enlightenment.

    Vow 4
    Provided I become a Buddha, if in that Buddha-country of mine the beings who are born there should not all be of one appearance without the difference of noble looking or ugly lineaments, then may I not attain the enlightenment.

    Vow 5
    Provided I become a Buddha, if in that Buddha-country of mine the beings who are born there should not be possessed of the supernormal knowledge of recollecting the previous lives of themselves (Purvanivasana i.e. knowledge of all reincarnations), and knowing the events of evolution of hundred thousand nayuta years of kalpas, then may I not attain the enlightenment.

    Vow 6
    Provided I become a Buddha, if in that country of mine the beings who are born there should not be possessed of the Divine-eye (Divyatchakchus) which can see a hundred thousand nayuta of Buddha-countries, then may I not attain the enlightenment.

    Vow 7
    Provided I become a Buddha, if the beings of that country of mine should not be possessed of the Divine-ear (Divyassrotra) which to be able to hear the preachings of a hundred thousand kotis of nayuta of Buddhas, and to a faithful observance, then may I not attain the enlightenment.

    Vow 8
    Provided I become a Buddha, if the beings of that country of mine should not all possessed the Intuitive-mind (Paratchittadjna) knowing the thoughts of all beings of a hundred thousand kotis of nayuta of Buddha-countries, then may I not attain the enlightenment.

    Vow 9
    Provided I become a Buddha, if the beings of that country of mine should not all possessed of the Heavenly-step (Riddisakchatkriya) which can in the shortest moment of one thought travelling over a hundred thousand kotis of nayuta of Buddha-countries, then may I not attain the enlightenment.

    Vow 10
    Provided I become a Buddha, if the beings of that country of mine should have arise in their minds the idea of selfishness and covetous thoughts, even with regard to their own bodies, then may I not attain the enlightenment.

    Vow 11
    Provided I become a Buddha, if the beings of that country of mine should not all be firmly abiding in a concentrated state of meditation and equanimity (Samadhi) till they have reached Nirvana, then may I not attain the enlightenment.

    Vow 12
    Provided I become a Buddha, if my light should be limited in measurement so that it could not illuminate a hundred thousand nayuta of kotis of Buddha-countries, then may I not attain the enlightenment.

    Vow 13
    Provided I become a Buddha, if the measure of my life should be limited, even by counting a hundred thousand nayuta of kotis of Kalpas, then may I not attain the enlightenment.

    Vow 14
    Provided I become a Buddha, if any being should be able to count innumerable pupils belonging to me in that country of mine, even if all the beings of those three million worlds and the whole triple chiliocosm, who after having become Pratyeka-Buddhas, count and continue to do so for a period of a hundred thousand nayuta of kotis of Kalpas, could know the balance, then may I not attain the enlightenment.

    Vow 15
    Provided I become a Buddha, the life of the beings in that country of mine should be eternal, excepting by their own free will whenever they choose to pass away from life, otherwise may I not attain the enlightenment.

    Vow 16
    Provided I become a Buddha, there should be no evil or sinful existence in that country of mine, even its very name is unknown. Otherwise may I not attain the enlightenment.

    Vow 17
    Provided I become a Buddha, if the innumerable Buddhas of the worlds of ten quarters do not glorify my name, then may I not attain the enlightenment.

    Vow 18
    Provided I become a Buddha, if the beings of the ten quarters who after having heard my name, and thus awakened their highest faith and aspiration of re-birth in that country of mine, even they have recollected such a thought for ten times only, they are destinated to be born there, with the exception of those who have committed the five deadly sins (Anantarya), and who have blasphemed the orthodox Law (Dharma), otherwise may I not attain the enlightenment.

    Vow 19
    Provided I become a Buddha, if the beings of ten quarters who have directed their thoughts towards the Bodhi and cultivated their stock of various merits with a fervent craving for re-birth in that country of mine, if at the moment of death, should I not appear with an assembly of retinue before them, then may I not attain the enlightenment.

    Vow 20
    Provided I become a Buddha, if the beings of ten quarters, after having heard my name always longing for that country of mine and cultivating various essential merits for the purpose of realizing their earnest wish to be born in my country, should their fulfillment be failed, then may I not attain the enlightenment.

    Vow 21
    Provided I become a Buddha, if the beings of that country of mine should not all be endowed with the glorious body perfected with the thirty-two attributes (Laksanani) of a great being, then may I not attain the enlightenment.

    Vow 22
    Provided I become a Buddha, the Bodhisattvas who come to be born in that country of mine are to be bound to that one birth only, then to become Buddha-elect (Ekajatipratibuddhas), with the exception of those who by their own free will remain in the stage of Bodhisattva-hood for the sake of delivering various beings, wearing the armour of vows to travel to all worlds, performing their Boddhisattva-duties and accumulating their stock of merit, who wish to serve the Buddhas of ten quarters, and convert the various beings in number like grains of sand of the River Ganges to the highest perfect knowledge, whose activities have surpassed the stage of ordinary beings, and who practise the universal virtue of Samantabhadra, otherwise may I not attain the enlightenment.

    Vow 23
    Provided I become a Buddha, if those Bodhisattvas in that country of mine, through the Grace of the Buddha should not be able to serve all the Buddhas throughout the countless nayuta of Buddha-worlds within a moment as short as a length of time of refreshment, then may I not attain the enlightenment.

    Vow 24
    Provided I become a Buddha, if those Bodhisattva in that country of mine who wish their stock of merit to produce any appliance to be used before the Buddhas, should such things not appear for them to their satisfaction, then may I not attain the enlightenment.

    Vow 25
    Provided I become a Buddha, if those Bodhisattvas in that country of mine should not be able to preach the law of wisdom in completion, then may I not attain the enlightenment.

    Vow 26
    Provided I become a Buddha, those Bodhisattva of that country of mine should not all be in possession of a golden body as strong as the diamond of Narayana, then may I not attain the enlightenment.

    Vow 27
    Provided I become a Buddha, the heavenly beings and the various properties produced in that country of mine should all be of supreme beauty and in boundless quantity, and in the infinity of various forms. If any being therein who even possessed the divine-eye is able to perceive the appellations and quantity of such beauties, then may I not attain the enlightenment.

    Vow 28
    Provided I become a Buddha, if any Bodhisattva of that country of mine who possesses even the least stock of merit, should not perceive the boundless shining beauty of the Bodhi-trees of my sanctuary, their height being at least four millions of miles, then may I not attain enlightenment.

    Vow 29
    Provided I become a Buddha, if any Bodhisattva of that country of mine should not all possess the wisdom of eloquent oration after having read, recited, and observed the Dharma of the sutras, then may I not attain the enlightenment.

    Vow 30
    Provided I become a Buddha, if any Bodhisattvas of that country of mine, have their wisdom of oration limited, then may I not attain the enlightenment.

    Vow 31
    When I have obtained the Buddhahood, if that country of mine should not be limpid and brilliant as to reflect the miniatures of the innumerable, inconceivable and boundless Buddha-worlds of ten quarters as one’s face is seen in a bright mirror, then may I not attain the enlightenment.

    Vow 32
    If after I have obtained the Buddhahood, in that country of mine, there should be magnificent palaces towering up from the ground to the void, also the lakes, winding streams, blossoming trees, and all other properties which are compounded of various jewels and thousands of kinds of perfumes, minutely embellished in the most wondrous state surpassing all heavenly and human worlds. The scent of the perfumes should thoroughly pervade the worlds of ten quarters, whereof the Bodhisattvas, having smelt them thereby directed their minds to Bodhi; otherwise may I not attain the enlightenment.

    Vow 33
    When I obtain the Buddhahood, any being of the boundless and inconceivable Buddha-worlds of the ten quarters whose body if be touched by the rays of my splendour should not make his body and mind gentle and peaceful, in such a state that he is far more sublime than the gods and men, then may I not attain the enlightenment.

    Vow 34
    When I obtain the Buddhahood, if the beings of boundless and inconceivable Buddha-worlds should not attain the “Endurance of Nirvanic Life” (Ajatah sarvadharmah) of Bodhisattva, and the deep knowledge of “Adharanamudro” (or Dharani?) after having heard my name, then may I not attain the enlightenment.

    Vow 35
    When I obtain the Buddhahood, women of boundless and inconceivable Buddha-worlds of the ten quarters after having heard my name thereby awakened in faith and joyful aspiration, and turning their minds towards Bodhi, therefore dislike their own female lives, when they be born again, in their next life should not be incarnated into a masculine body, then may I not attain the enlightenment.

    Vow 36
    When I obtain the Buddhahood, the Bodhisattvas of boundless and inconceivable Buddha-worlds of the ten quarters after having heard my name, after their death (in their next life) will still continue their Bodhisattva-duty till they have obtained the Buddhahood, otherwise may I not attain the enlightenment.

    Vow 37
    When I obtain the Buddhahood, the heavenly beings of boundless and inconceivable Buddha-worlds of the ten quarters, having heard my name, should not worship me with prostrate reverence, and joyfully and faithfully perform their Bodhisattva-duty, and be honoured by gods and men, then may I not attain the enlightenment.

    Vow 38
    When I obtain the Buddhahood, the heavenly beings of that country of mine, should they desire a garment will be able to perceive themselves, as quick as thought, covered by apparitionally produced costumes, excellent to their satisfaction, worthy to be praised by the Buddha, without the work of sewing, washing, dying, etc. Otherwise may I not attain enlightenment.

    Vow 39
    When I attain the Buddhahood, if the heavenly beings of that country of mine should not be enjoying happiness as great as that that of the holy bhikkhus,(Asravakchava the finality of the stream of passions) then may I not attain the enlightenment.

    Vow 40
    When I attain the Buddhahood, if the Bodhisattvas of that country of mine wish to see the boundless, holy, pure Buddha-worlds of the ten quarters, they will at once behold them from the jewel-trees as though one’s face were being reflected in a highly burnished, brilliant mirror, otherwise may I not attain the enlightenment.

    Vow 41
    When I attain the Buddhahood, if the Bodhisattvas of other worlds after having heard my name, should suffer from any diminution in the functional powers and not be endowed with all sense-organs in completion before reaching the Buddhahood, then may I not attain the enlightenment.

    Vow 42
    When I obtain the Buddhahood, if the Bodhisattvas hearing my name from other Buddha-countries, should not all attain the pure Samadhi of emancipation (Suvibhaktavati) from which they could serve innumerable and inconceivable number of Buddhas, Tathagatas, by a moment of thought; and if that Samadhi of theirs should come to an end meanwhile, then may I not attain enlightenment.

    Vow 43
    If after I have obtained the Buddhahood, that any Bodhisattva of other countries having heard my name, will be incarnated as a member of a noble family (if he so desires) when he dies, otherwise may I not attain enlightenment.

    Vow 44
    When I obtain the Buddhahood, the Bodhisattvas of other countries having heard my name will all obtain a combination of full virtues and joyfully perform their Bodhisattva-duty, otherwise may I not attain enlightenment.

    Vow 45
    When I have obtain the Buddhahood, the Bodhisattvas of other countries having heard my name, all will attain the “Samantanugata”(the thoroughly and equal Samadhi in a fixed state of meditation) through that Samadhi they will see innumerable and inconceivable Buddhas constantly till they have obtained the Buddhahood, otherwise may I for-bear from obtaining enlightenment.

    Vow 46
    When I obtain the Buddhahood, the Bodhisattvas of that country of mine should be able to hear the preachings of the Dharma whenever they desire (the voices of teaching will present themselves naturally to their ears), otherwise may I refrain from attaining enlightenment.

    Vow 47
    When I have obtain the Buddhahood, if the Bodhisattvas of other countries after having heard my name should not immediately reach the state of Avaivartika (i.e. not turning back from Bodhi), then I would refrain from attaining enlightenment.

    Vow 48
    When I have obtained the Buddhahood, if the Bodhisattvas of other countries having heard my name should not reach the first, second and third degrees of Dharma-endurance immediately or should turn back from the Law of Buddhas, then I would refrain from attaining enlightenment.

    • Gr8fulchains

      Please tell me you cut and pasted that

    • Boris Dignan

      Thanks for forcing that down our throats. Now I forgot what I was going to say.