William Corgan Says He May Need A Big Comeback Like Robert Downey Jr.

In Part 4 of Crestfallen owner Jonathan Monte’s new interview with Smashing Pumpkins frontman William Corgan, Corgan continued to discuss his desire to put the Smashing Pumpkins on hiatus and his problems with his career.

On the state of his career: “The one thing that you know, and I know, is that excellence at the highest level trumps every argument, which is why a filmmaker who is on the dust heap if he makes the brilliant film, or if she makes the brilliant film, suddenly they can have a comeback. Robert Downey Jr., the top to the bottom to the top. So anything is possible with excellence, in his case, I’m lucky enough to know him barely, he’s a fantastic actor, no doubt about it. The guy’s a great actor and he deserves to be a big movie star and I’m happy that he’s back where he belongs, because that’s where he belongs. Maybe that’s it, maybe there’s only room for me in that dust heap when I’m at my best best best best. Maybe that’s what I’m trying to say. Maybe the days of hoping the audience is willing to let me be less than robotically perfect or, do you want to follow me down B-side lane, young Jonathan. Do you understand? Maybe all those days are over, and there’s only one thing left to do.”

He later said, “I’m not going to continue on this [current] path, but I think we’re on a path where if we kind of were willing to kind of slog our way through the next 4 or 5 years, we could kind of come out the other end. But I don’t see doing that.”

On Smashing Pumpkins’ 2007-2013 resurrection: “If 50 songs were released and 10 were excellent and 40 were shit, well at least you got 10 more excellent songs. It wouldn’t have existed [without bringing the band back].”

  • Big Muff

    Haha what the fuck was William thinking! Just wait till some of his biggest fans on this website leave a comment to show there support, just to name a few… Patrick Bateman, La Flatulista, Peace Frog, and Belgian Waffled. While they might want you to think otherwise.. these guys just love good old William and dedicate there time to show there devoution

    • Peace Frog

      If you knew the size of my SP collection, you would be surprised by how much support I do give SP. Just because I don’t like his attitude nor the way he treats people, doesn’t mean I don’t like the music.

      Corgan can’t just go away and come back to get back on top. It doesn’t work that way. Downey Jr. didnt come back and immediately everything was major for him. He had to work to get off the bottom of the heap. He made personal changes and worked not only on his career but most importantly worked on himself. And then he did some projects that people started to like. Billy might not like this notion, but until people start to love what you do again, you can’t force that. It’s not a decision he can make. He can try to put himself into position to be major again, but if the people don’t buy it or support it, that’s not in his control. I think that is the part he total doesn’t seem to get. He is such a control freak(for better and for worse at times) that he can’t stand that he is not in control over what people like. “I say it’s great, and if the people don’t buy it, then I’ll insult them, because what do they know about music?.”

      I personally dont see him near the bottom. I think his career in music is maybe at it’s lowest point since really ‘making it big’ , and it sounds like he also feels the same. I hope he finds whatever it is that puts him back at the top again.

    • Peace Frog

      Try having an opinion instead of just trying to bait people into arguments. Try just a little bit to be less pathetic.

      • GwynnKatie

        ^This.

        Peace — Peace Frog

      • Big Muff

        Try having a sense of humor, Jesus Christ

        • GwynnKatie

          Ok, sure, and I do… but a well-placed smiley face in any and all comments goes a long way in translation on the internet, you know? Here…

          “Haha what the fuck was William thinking! ๐Ÿ˜€ Just wait till some of his biggest fans on this website leave a comment to show there support, just to name a fewโ€ฆ Patrick Bateman, La Flatulista, Peace Frog, and Belgian Waffled. While they might want you to think otherwise.. these guys just love good old William and dedicate there time to show there devoution… ๐Ÿ˜€ ๐Ÿ˜€ :D”

          Do you see the difference?

          No offense meant. And I don’t believe anyone here is pathetic, even the people who REALLY hate me. Seriously.

          Peace

          • Big Muff

            @GwynnKatie
            My comment was directed at Peace frog..

  • Is he one?

    I think it’s well said and positive.

  • Big M

    ………………….

  • ShaneC

    This is why he complimented his original band earlier this week. He want the original Pumpkins to comeback big.

    Of course that makes him a hypocrite, since he’s gone after every 90’s band that has done the same.

    • Is he one?

      Nah that will not happen.

  • La Flatulista

    Billy Corgan tiene tantas posibilidades de hacer una reapariciรณn como Tom Green.

  • GwynnKatie

    His eyes look photo-shopped in the article picture.
    Like reptile-slit pupils instead of round-human pupils.
    That is a bit disturbing, who would do that?
    He’s thinking. He’s thinking out loud — in an interview.
    Grow your Garden Billy. Keep Making Music. Some of us Still Believe.
    The “young Jonathan” sentence made me laugh. What?
    Was the interviewer like…17? Billy, you’re 46 years old. Not Merlin @ 127.

    Peace

  • Clem Halibut

    Is Billy Corgan interviewed everyday?

    • GwynnKatie

      This was the first line of the article…
      “In Part 4 of Crestfallen owner Jonathan Monteโ€™s new interview with Smashing Pumpkins frontman William Corgan…*
      I think they are just taking excerpts from a very, very long interview, that’s all…

      Peace

  • http://nemsworld.com Christine

    So he’s going to abuse drugs until he’s found in the yard or house of someone else, do rehab time, and become a super hero?

    I think that’s a bit contradictory to his long time position on drugs.

    • GwynnKatie

      Aheh! I wonder how many other people got that… ๐Ÿ˜€ ๐Ÿ˜€ ๐Ÿ˜€ I love your sense of humor.
      It really seems like he’s literally mulling ideas firing around in his brain and speaking them out loud during the interview, and if Billy does not do drugs at all – then yeah – comparison to RD Jr is rather nonsensical. I really love SP music, but I don’t know Billy’s past history but if he’s anti-drugs,
      then…
      Yeah… heh
      Like I said, he’s all over the place – very conflicted but I kind of understand why.

      Peace

  • Raj

    I’m no SP or Corgan expert but as far as I have read, heard and seen he’s never been a junkie and if he was addicted to something I don’t think he ever hit rock bottom like a Cobain, Staley or in this case Robert Downey Jr. What is Billy trying to come back from? A heavy drug addiction? No. He’s trying to comeback to being as relevant as he used to. I think Billy leans toward the Neil Young adage, “it’s better to burn out than to fade away.” Same thing Cobain followed and even included in the suicide note. I think Billy doesn’t want to be remembered as a footnote in music or someone who just fades away.

  • Boris Dignan

    Maybe Drugs will work for Billy Corgan….at the very least It’ll mellow him out a little. Best case scenario…. we’ll maybe get some cool trippy SP songs.

  • Jeff

    He is honestly over analyzing his life and career. The New album was okay and the reissues of past material have been wonderful. You write great songs man. Just write songs and let everything else be.

  • Fred Bob

    Does anyone else remember when he was going to charge a subscription of $40 dollars to see the making of their album online as it happened? He thought it would pay for the album, but the number of subscribers was low so he was going to give it to the people who had signed up for free and more or less told everyone else to f*ck themselves.. What happened with that? It could have been when jimmy was still there.

    The rest of the band must be sending their CVs around at the moment, although as their employer Billy is probably monitoring their accounts…

  • Patrick Bateman

    I have to return some videotapes

  • Chris

    He doesn’t need a big comeback, he needs it to be 20 years ago. Whatever he does, Smashing Pumpkins will never be a platinum selling rock band, ever again. Not even with the original lineup.

    He can probably continue to make a decent living as he still writes great songs, Oceania is one of his best albums, but he needs to forget about being a huge rock star, those days are over.

  • GoodNPlenTy

    He is scared, that’s all. As all of us will be at some point in our life’s if we live long enough.
    He misses being on top and feels that he will be forgotten about. I would say he will be forgotten as most of the bands around that time. Do those who were around the 60s-70s remember every band. There were some big ones that people never even talk about regardless of the #1 songs and fame they had. That’s not even that long ago.

    So Billy should just be glad he’s alive and still making music even if it’s not at the top.
    RD Jr. was his way to show how it can be done but like has been said he was a junkie who fucked up when he was huge, lived then came back even bigger as Iron Man. Now if billy were to get a role in the next Iron Man movie.
    He could play the villain as his Pro wrestling background shows what a great actor and heal he can be.
    The name of the villain could be Jukebox Robot Killing Machine as it shoots out CD’s, Vinyl, and even some 8 track and regular tape to trap iron man in.

    This whole thing brings a tear to the corner of my eye, yes a tiny one not enough to actually see or fall to the ground but still……..

    • GwynnKatie

      Oh like this one?

      Hold Your Head Up *Argent* 1972

      And if it’s bad…
      Don’t let it get you down, you can take it
      And if it hurts…
      Don’t let them see you cry, you can take it

      Hold your head up, hold your head up
      Hold your head up, hold your head high

      And if they stare…
      Just let them burn their eyes on you moving
      And if they shout…
      Don’t let it change a thing that you’re doing

      Hold your head up, hold your head up
      Hold your head up, hold your head high

      I like what you said. The part about being scared. That was well said, GoodNPlenTy.

      Today – this song’s for you Billy.
      You will never be irrelevant, You will always be important.
      If you’re a good person people will love you.
      Take care of yourself and your inner circle.

      That — in the end, is all that truly matters anyway.

      And yes, I know he will never read this.

      Peace

  • GoodNPlenTy

    @GwynnKatie
    Thanks for the kind words. I would say you are a warm and sweet person.
    Hold Your Head Up *Argent* 1972
    Your right it fits Billy perfectly now as he wrestles (no pun intended) with the problems he is dealing with but he is a fighter and will come out on top.
    I totally forgot about the band and that big hit they had that was played over and over back in 1972. So I guess it’s more people with my memory that might forget a lot of the bands around SP time. ๐Ÿ™‚

    Based on what billy has said recently it’s hard to say what will be his path.

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