NEW SOUNDGARDEN ALBUM HAS PSYCHEDELIC AND AC/DC ELEMENTS

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Brandon Geist of Revolver Magazine tweeted this review of the 6 new Soundgarden songs he heard:

“3 very heavy and rockin, one almost could be AC/DC, 3 more mellow, expansive. Psychedelic touches: sitar, organ…”

“I believe they’re still deciding the single. Their publicist played me the 6 songs. The other 6 or 7 are still being mastered”

  • steve

    BREAKING NEWS!

  • Cody

    i was hoping for like sixteen songs, soundgarden with only twelve or thirteen songs, bummer

  • xxxx

    YEAH! only 12-13 songs is a major ripoff I am not going to buy an album with only a measly 12-13 songs.

    Where the fuck is our old School SoundGARDEN with there 16 motherfucking songs! The nerve at least Billy Coke makes 2000 songs in a year. Bullshit.

  • slagun

    its about quality, not quantity!

  • Cody

    ill take whatever i can get from soundgarden, i was just surprised there isnt more with the long lay off. not too stoked that the dude mentions organ use

  • Max

    I believe they said 14 earlier. If there are only 13 on the album, there will likely be another to appear somewhere, maybe a bonus song. Also, I think it’s a little wrong to say it has “AC/DC elements” in the headline after one guy said it about one song.. But whatever.

  • Michael

    Organ isn’t really a bad thing, remember, it is Soundgarden we’re talking about here, I’m sure they’ll make great use out of it!

  • GUSHC

    I couldn’t give a shirt how many songs are on the album because I sure as shit couldn’t right 12 banging songs of the soundgarden calibre, I’m just happy that theres some new soundgarden on the way!

  • Lala’s Boy xx

    YAWN! They need to put up or shut up srsly. It won’t be as good as ‘teargatden’ or ‘oceania’ anyways. Billy has raised the bar these last couple of years for how grunge should sound while Chris was doing a rap album with timberland and eddie was making ukulele music (which is totes gay! LOL).

    Alan and LaLa x

  • Junior

    WTF?! Brett, you have to be a f’ing idiot. First, you took the info I did the work to retrieve from this guy, froma convo me and him had, and didn’t bother to mention that at all in your “breaking news” story here? Second, Geist stated that ONE song was ALMOST AC/DC like, and you title the headline saying the album has “AC/DC elements??!?! You’re a fucking joke of a music fan and you’re turning this site into a joke. Seriously.

  • Shadow on the sun

    Wont be as good as Oceania or teargarden? Lol I like the pumpkins and none of their albums are as good as any Soundgarden albums.

    Cutting down the sg album to 12-13 songs works for me as I’d rather not have songs like never named,an unkind as they didn’t really do much for dotu. Sg has tons of better bsides than tracks like those

  • Cody

    ^^^^^ i love an unkind

  • Matt A

    Both of those songs were fine. Not the strongest on the album, but still good fast tempo SG.

  • Rick

    @ Lala’s boy xx

    You serious? First, nice homophobic douchery. But just because Scream was an electronic/pop album doesn’t make it rap, Chris’ vocals still sounded amazing on that album, my problem with it was the direction of the production and beats. I still like it though.. I just dont get how you think Corgan is upping the bar with Teargarden has been so inconsistent. I still need to give Oceania a few more spins to decide how I truly like it but it still hasn’t impressed nearly as much as Blues Funeral. Can’t wait to hear how good this album is gonna be.

  • Matt A

    Even Applebite is awesome. I remember buying that CD when it first came out and that one took a few listens, but it’s got that awesome experimental Soundgarden sound with an moody, eerie vibe, and Matt’s cool mellotron playing.

  • BillCo

    Hey Jr back off Brett, hes tired and needs to make good headlines.
    How did you get it 1st since Brett is the grunge guru of the internet.

    BillCo is kicking ass with his new album that sounds like a big wet hot smelly shit fart.

    Soundgarden are hoping BillCo don’t fuck them up if he ever met them in person. Hes a big time pro wrestler with a belt and all.

  • warriorwoman

    Jeez people will whine about ANYTHING if they don’t get exactly what they want. I’m very thankful that we’re GETTING a new album from Soundgarden. Five years ago, who would have thought they would even get back together?

    (I sure hope I like the cover of their album or I just won’t buy it!)

    *snicker*

    Sorry, Brett! I just couldn’t help myself! After reading all the golden reviews the guys got on their European tour, I get embarrassed by the crap some of their own home-country fans write!

  • Lala’s Boy xx

    @Rick

    Haven’t you heard ‘Astral Planes’, ‘Owata’ or ‘Widow Wake My Mind’? That is how grunge is supposed to sound in 2012, that’s why radio picked it up, that’s why it shifted units. Soundgarden have never written anything as great as the aforementioned songs and I doubt they’re going to start now, that’s IF this album ever actually comes out LMAO! They tried to copy Billy’s catchy grunge approach with ‘We live to rise’ but that was an epic FAIL and I imagine the next SG disc will be more of the same… Do us a favour and just listen to teargatden and Oceania instead.

    Alan & LaLa x

  • Lala’s Boy xx

    And you Douche’s need to lay off Brett, he’s doing a great job with the site, especially all the Pumpkins news… If I had to pick one fault I’d say there’s a bit too much coverage for this soundgarden album which is totes never gonna happen lol! Also Jane’s Addiction should be covered, drop SG and cover Jane’s!!

    Alan & LaLa x

  • Mia

    I’m excited to hear about the psychedelic elements of the album, though AC/DC sounds a little strange for Soundgarden. I will be excited to hear the new album!

  • Nick

    lalas boy shut the f*ck up, if anything there is WAY too much coverage of smashing pumpkins lately. soundgarden deserve all the coverage they can get since THEY deserve A LOT more respect than any smashing pumpkins/billco music out today (not tryin to diss them). Much respect to brett with the site btw

  • Philip

    AC/DC fucking blows. I didn’t hear the song and this Revolver guy did, but I would bet my LIFE nothing on that Soundgarden album sounds like fucking AC/DC. That is outrageously stupid. Maybe he’s new at the magazine. Likely, he’s new to music altogether.

  • Philip

    Oh and I’m sure it wasn’t an ‘organ’ Geist heard, but a Rhodes piano. Soundgarden used one on “Down On The Upside”. Listen to ‘Overfloater’. And tasteful use of the sitar is awesome. I’m sure it is all going to be very, very fine.

  • Ben

    Heavy, rocking, mellow with Psychedelic touches… Sounds good to me.

    I can’t really imagine Soundgarden sounding like AC/DC – I’m guessing that wasn’t the appropriate description. I’m sure they will make up for the “lesser” number of tracks with quality and maybe there might be some long Psychedelic rockers. I’m just excited to soon be hearing new Soundgarden!

  • Dreux

    Say what you will about some of the weirder tracks on Down on the Upside, they never really hurt the experience (to me anyway). Some of those weirder songs lends themselves to make a more varied album. I don’t particularly care for “An Unkind”, but I like “Never Named” and really love “Applebite”. I think 12-13 tracks is perfectly fine, but I’d like to hear 1 or 2 “weird Soundgarden songs”.

  • Brett

    Junior,

    Was about to head out to the beach earlier today, saw the thread on SoundgardenWorld and posted the story real quick before leaving. I don’t know why you have it out for me, whatever. You seem to come on this site an awful lot for somebody who hates it. If you e-mail me something I’ll give you full credit.

    Love (your hero),

    Brett

  • SuperSG

    Brett Favre, Chris Cornell, Henrik Lundquvist, and Author Brett are my personal Heroes as of…NOW!

  • Staley_Forever

    @ Phillip

    I agree, a lot of what AC/CD puts out does fucking blow, except all there music that they put out with Bon Scott.

  • SuperSG

    Oh and Lala clan SHUT THE FUCK UP NOW!! Do you idiots have no respect for one of the founders of Grunge itself? Please! I like the Pumpkins and respect Billco’s talents as a singer/lyricist/writer, but he cant compare to Cornell and the only other CURRENT band that can compete with SG’s legend is Pearl Jam. Smashing is fine, u have every right to support them, but show some class and respect.

  • Senior

    GD man. Am I the only one who can’t stand little joe/junior? He is absolutely ruining the boards at sg world with his douchebaggery. Heaven forbid someone try to express a concern or worry without getting a childish ill conceived essay in reply.

    Good job on the story Brett.

  • louderthanshit333

    @xxxx

    You’re a fucking idiot. None of Soundgarden’s old school material had 16 songs per album. Only their final albums featured that many songs.

  • MAYAN CALENDAR 2012

    Hello everyone, I am Mike Hammer from Metal Nation Magazine.
    Soundgardens manager called me yesturday on June the 24th and they gave me the complete 20 track listing for Soundgardens new album Sonic Heaven, that will be released in September 2012.

    The official 20 songs are :

    1) Alpha Punk
    2) Storm Blues
    3) Live To Rise
    4) Police Radio
    5) Witchcraft
    6) Revoltage
    7) Live To Rise
    8) B-Sharp
    9) Evil Knivel
    10) Sonic Heaven
    11) Coal Mine Fucker
    12) Dirt Money
    13) Gods Talking
    14) Bitch On Fire
    15) Soul Justice
    16) Rock N Roll Misery
    17) Brotherhood
    18) War Drums
    19) Gasoline Mad
    20) Can’t Complain

    I have listened to all the demos on this album and its true, they do sound like AC/DC, The Ramones, Black Sabbath, The MC5, Mudhoney and Nirvana also. Soundgarden are once again going to make a true grunge rock album. It does pick up where Down On The Upside from 1996 left off, but also go in new metal, grunge and punk directions. If you like Black Rain , The Telephantasm and Live To Rise. Then you will probably enjoy listening to Soundgardens new album Sonic Heaven, coming out in September.

    In July , some of the songs will be released as singles and available on ITUNES. Check with Soundgardens official website for more news updates. Peace and keep metal music alive

  • MAYAN CALENDAR 2012

    Also : Tracks # 3) Live To Rise is the Avengers movie soundtrack single
    # 7) Live To Rise is the Acoustic soul blues version
    And theres also 6 Bonus Tracks from the Sonic Heaven CD single:
    # 1) Sonic Heaven Acoustic Version
    2) No Satisfaction ( Rolling Stones Cover )
    3) Battery Charger
    4) Powerless
    5) Freedom Of Choice ( Devo Cover )
    6) Kick Out The Jams ( MC5 Cover )

    Once again, this is Mike Hammer from Metal Nation Magazine, Peace Out and keep metal music alive!

  • Lala’s Boy xx

    There ain’t no clan dude, it’s just me and my girl LaLa and were sick of all the hate for Billy, if there wasn’t a pumpkins there probably wouldn’t be a Pearl Jam or Soundgarden… You gotta respect what came first. Ten came out in 1994, that’s 3 Years after Gish and SG’s first album Superinknown came out the year after in 1995. Who do you think they were influenced by?? That’s right Billy Corgan and you may of notice they’re still ripping off his ideas now trying to do their own versions of teargatden, catchy grunge stuff that will get radio play like ‘widow wake my mind’ did but they can’t pull it off, ‘We Live To Rise’ was just BAD and now this new Soundgarden album is gonna sound like ACDC?! Hahaha TNT ITS DYNAMITE! Lol, it’s gonna be bad let’s face it my dudes!

    Alan and LaLa x

  • Cody

    all the hate i used to have for BE is now directed towards mayan calendar

  • Lala’s Boy xx

    Me and LaLa are going to make love to ‘Spangled’ and ‘Owata’ right now by the way 😉

    Alan (LaLa’s boy 4eva)

  • Cody

    ^^^^^^fucks fat chicks

  • MAYAN CALENDAR 2012

    I WILL SAY THIS WITH ALL HONESTY, I WISH CODY LSO AND OTHER STUPID MOTHER FUCKING HATERS ON THIS FORUM WOULD BE BANNED FOREVER!!!! I LIKE TO POST MY OPINIONS ON HERE SO IF YOU DONT LIKE IT , THEN YOU CAN POLITELY LEAVE OR JUST FUCK OFF OK??

  • Rick

    Lala’s Boy xx

    Ten came out in august of 91, not 94 (that was Superunknown)

  • Lala’s Boy xx

    LaLa ain’t fat dude. Trust me if you saw her you’d be jealous of my hot grunge chick but guess you’ll just have to dream lol lmao.

    Alan (LaLa’s boy)

  • Cody

    @mayan, how is making a fake track list with a stupid album title and even more dumbass titles for the songs just voicing your opinion? you are a troll and a loser troll at that

  • Lala’s Boy xx

    @ Rick

    You sure about that? Ten must’ve come out after ‘Gish’ cos you can hear the Billy/Pumpkins influence all over it. I’m sure ‘Jeremys spoken’ came out in like 1994 and that was first single of ten. Soundgardens first album was definitely 1995 though, Black Hole Sun was the first single and what made them popular, rest of the album was crap though I thought. Audioslave were great though.

    Andy (LaLa’s boy)

  • Superunknown

    @Mayan Calendar, you are supremely fucking annoying. You come onto every Soundgarden thread and post your stupid ass track listing. You’re not funny or clever, you’re just really fucking annoying. You never say anything worthwhile…so shut the fuck up.

  • Lala’s Boy xx

    Credit where credits due though, think we can all agree on one thing… Nirvana started it all!! Makes me lol when douchers think ‘nevermind’ was there first album haha lmao they don’t even know about the first two ‘Bleach’ and ‘insecticide’, which I prefer, what do you dudes think?? Let’s try and get on, we all love grunge after all.

  • Andy

    Honestly, I think Nirvana is really overrated and what they did for music precedes their music itself. Yes, they brought punk to the mainstream, which was a big deal. I think it boils down to the mystery of their potential factor. He shot himself at their peak and therefore, kind of immortalized Nirvana’s legacy by going out with a bang, such as a Hendrix or a Jeff Buckley. In my eyes, Alice in Chains and Soundgarden never got the credit that pearl jam and nirvana got when the first two I stated were superior and more versatile, that’s just my opinion.

  • MAYAN CALENDAR 2012

    SUPERMORON

    I DONT COME ONTO THE SOUNDGARDEN FORUMS
    THATS SOMEONE ELSE WHOS USING MY NAME OK??

    AND THESE TRACK LISTINGS I HAVE POSTED ARE 100% TRUE AND VERIFIED
    SOUNDGARDENS MANAGEMENT HAVE CALLED ME AND TOLD ME THE NEW 20 SONGS ON SOUNDGARDENS UPCOMING NEW ALBUM OK??? SO QUIT FUCKING WITH ME BOY!!

    AS FOR YOU CODY? YOUR A DUMB SHIT FOR WASTING HOURS AND HOURS ON ME , OKAY LETS JUST SAY FOR THE SAKE OF ARGUMENT, YOU DONT LIKE MY OPINIONS, WELL?? WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ??? KEEP FIGHTING WITH ME ON HERE?? OR JUST LET IT GO ??? I WILL SAY WHATEVERI FEEL LIKE , SO FUCK YOU

    OK??? IF YOUR SO TOUGH ON HERE, ID LIKE TO ISSUE YOU A CHALLENGE
    GIVE ME YOUR ADDRESS, AND I WILL COME FIND YOU AND SHOVE A BIG SOUNDGARDEN BULLET IN YOUR FUCKING HEAD OKAY BITCH?? CAUSE YOUR STARTING TO REALLY PISS ME OFF YOU SCUMBAG PIECE OF SHIT!!! OKAY?? TIME TO PUT UP OR SHUT THE HELL UP BITCH BOY!!!
    I WILL KILL YOU YOU UNDERSTAND ME ?? ASSHOLE?? THIS IS NO LONGER FORUM TALK MOTHER FUCKER !

    YOU THINK YOUR ALL BRAVE ON HERE?? GIVE ME YOUR ADDRESS, I WILL HUNT YOU DOWN BITCH AND YOU WILL BE NEVER FUCK WITH PEOPLE ON HERE EVER AGAIN!!! COME ON ! I AINT PLAYING NO MORE , YOU COWARD

  • Lala’s Boy xx

    Yeah but Nirvana basically invented grunge and without them their wouldnt rvrn be this site lol… Smashing Pumpkins were quick on their tale and then the slew of wannabe/copy cat bands started in the 90’s like Soundgarden, STP and Pearl Jam. People don’t even realise Nirvana and SP were around late 80’s all these other bands everyone’s putting on a pedestal came around a few years later so they had time to study! Respect the originators! Also for those who haven’t heard early nirvana check out bleach and insecticide, I actually think they’re both better than nevermind!

    Alan (LaLa’s boy)

  • http://youtube.com/spoceania lala

    Internet culture sucks!

  • Andy

    Dude, how can you say that Soundgarden and pearl Jam are copycats? That is plain ridiculous. And also, Soundgarden was around in the late 80’s as well. They put out Ultramega Ok and Louder than Love. You honestly think these bands studied Nirvana? I respect Nirvana for giving Seattle exposure during that time, but dude, I’m going to be honest, Soundgarden is 100 times better than Nirvana as far as lyrics, their dynamic time signatures, solos, and everything else…end of story.

  • Cody

    @moron calendar 2012 Meet me at griffith park in LA, im gonna get my hands on some bath salts and then eat your face

  • Ben

    @ Mayan.

    First you said you were Chris’s Cousin now your saying your Mike Hammer. Make up your mind.

    I also recall you saying that you just wanted to lighten the mood up with your jokes…. I don’t wish to suggest that this was not your original intention… however can’t you see that most people are fed up with you repeating the same phoney track list over and over… it ain’t lightening up any mood anywhere… it is just causing argument.

  • Ben

    …the most obvious conclusion is you are a troll! Either that or you are extremely bored and sad. Seriously you would be better finding real positive attention in the real world, rather then negative attention on some website.

  • xxxx

    SAd WorLd PeoPle Live in Thinking Such CraP is real once you die I will torture your souls for ever

    > > o|o < <

  • Iso

    Once again, MAYAN CALENDAR 2012 strikes! With his skin flute mastery, vice-grip on his hairy chimes, pepperoni face, and a spigot sticking out of his asshole, Mayan rolls through town like a spicy fart, layin’ down his own brand of crotch justice. Man, what a dude…

  • Lala’s Boy xx

    Andy – my point is that pumpkins Gish and nirvana Bleach were released before Soundgarden and Pearl Jam had put anything out so of course they were listening and studying and I think it really shows on ‘Ten’… That album has Billy’s influence all over it. Soundgardens first CD ‘Superunknown’ sounds like they were trying to be a darker nirvana and when it comes to solos neither Nirvana or Soundgarden have complex soloing, Smashing Pumpkins take that title. Spundgardens solos i think are the worst because they’re just messy noodling with no melody.

    Alan (LaLa’s boy) xx

  • Cody

    @lala’s boy, uh no. you are forgetting screaming life/fopp, ultramega ok, and louder than love. bleach was barely released before louder than love and gish was after all 3 so you are dumb as hell

  • Andy

    You have to be fucking kidding me, right? If you are going to talk music at least get your facts straight.

  • Andy

    God, please tell me your kidding Lala’s boy, everything you just said was complete and utter bullshit.

  • Tom

    Lala’s Boy… Nirvana formed in ’87 and put out Bleach in ’89. Soundgarden formed in ’84 and put out an ep in ’88 and the first full album in ’89, the same year as Bleach and within 2 months so they were basically recorded at the same time. You can think the world of Nirvana or the Pumpkin as they’re both great bands, but at least have your facts straight. Nirvana didn’t even exist yet when Soundgarden were touring the clubs for three years and writing original material.

  • Cody

    tom, ultramega ok was the first album and it was released in 88

  • MAYAN CALENDAR 2012

    OK TELL YOU WHAT?? LETS MAKE A BET
    IF MY SOUNDGARDEN LIST OF SONGS TURN OUT TO BE WRONG , MAY CODY LSO AND OTHER IDIOTS WHO HATE ME SO MUCH, ALL GET CANCER AND DIE

    AMEN :)

  • Cody

    whats the other side of the bet? you actually put pants on, walk away from the computer, and start up a real life?

  • Lala’s Boy xx

    Bleach and insecticide were Nirvanas first 2 album both released in the late 80’s before Nevermind (that wasn’t until 1992!). Gish came out next in 1991 but pumpkins were around before then in the late 80’s also. PJ and Soundgarden were last, soundgardens first proper album was Superinknown and that didn’t come out until like 1995 and PJ first single ‘Jeremy has spoken’ was like 93… So yeah Nirvana started the whole grunge scene but pumpkins were next, then PJ and then Soundgarden. Hope that clears things up and explains my point better.

    Alan (LaLa’s boy) x

  • Cody

    dumb. superunknown was the fourth album, you are fucking dumb

  • Cody

    soundgarden were the first and they are the gods of grunge. end of story. have a nice day.

  • Iso

    There is no way, in the name of your spit-polished knob, that those campy-assed titles you conjured are the actual Soundgarden song titles. The only thing that’s going to die of cancer is your sense of humor, which was on the way out already.

    Stick to choking on dick or chindo-ing your own bunghole.

  • Mistress K

    Grunge kindergarten… children, children.

  • Nick

    guys guys guys, there is no point in argueing with total fucking idiots like lala’s watever and who ever else is being a dumb fucktard. Soundgarden started it all and thats that then every1 started showing up, quit argueing yall and just enjoy the tunes. LALA YOUR AN IDIOT,(had to get that out). LALA clearly you dont understand how important soundgarden was/is to grunge’s formation, they were after all the first one of the Seattle bands to sign to a major label, Sub-Pop. I could give a rat’s ass bout Billy Corgan cuz hes just a whiney dumbfuck like you that doesnt know his facts and judges everyone. end of discussion

  • Nick

    hell call me crazy but id rather see “BE” idolize eddie vedder than see LALA watever say dumb fuckin shit like that, imo.

  • Jason

    Troll, thy name is Lala’s boy xx.

    Seriously! Are you such a boring/irritating/dumb/juvenile c*nt that you have to spew your dumb-made-up facts all over this site, investing your time in posting nonsense is of what benefit to you? Get a hobby dude…better yet, stick to what you know best which I suspect is masturbating…if you can find that little d*ck of yours…

    I’ll continue to breeze past your comments and I suggest everyone else do the same…Assh*le!

  • Brett

    I’m convinced that 70% of the people who comment here are trolling. TROLL ON!

  • Alex

    I’m convinced that 70% of the people who comment here are 12 years old. I’m still not sure what I just read after skimming through all of this nonsense.

  • Jason

    @Brett

    Doesn’t make it right though…it blows my mind how venomous some comments have been, especially on the Pumpkins articles. ALL of the “grunge” bands (whether in sound, era or familiarity) reviving careers should spark joy and rekindled belief in music with a lot more substance, yet it’s provoking the wrong senses.

    I think this site is just fine as it is so I hope you stick with it (should you have doubts on your approach). I just hope somewhere along the line people realise that the site is a vehicle to get news from these bands without having to dig for information on what is happening…no matter how huge and exciting or trivial it may be.

    Anyway…that is all…”Ride on!”

  • Alex

    @Jason I wouldn’t worry about the negativity. It’s the same people spewing it time and time again. Think about the larger picture. This site is just an easy place for the immature, no life trolls to come spout their garbage.

  • Brett

    It’s all seemed to come to a head with the Billy Corgan press tour to promote Oceania. Once that cools off I think the trolling will here too for a bit. There’s always going to be some though, there always has been. Be for example.

  • Cody J

    I like how people here actually think that billy corgain and smashing pumpkins are even good…… More like smashing blumpkins….

  • Ben

    @ Nick. I agree… I would rather see BE ‘s stupid comments then the number of trolls which have sprung up from BE ‘s demise.

    Brett you seriously need to do something about the number of trolls on your site… it is getting out of hand and ruining the site! Unless it is Brett that is trolling to boost numbers LOL just kidding (atleast I hope your not!) LOL

  • Robert

    I can’t wait to hear it.

  • Jarofchains

    I echo Robert’s sentiments

  • Electric Fun

    ahem anyways great news!

  • Maggie

    Plot twist: lala is billy corgan

  • Junior

    6-25-2012

    After reading the article I posted on SG World…

    My Wife: “I wonder when Brett will see this and twist your story around and make it a headline for his website.”

    Me: “Hahaha. Good one, lets see. *goes to grungereport.net and reads headline*

    My Wife: “OMG. Bwahahahahahahaha!”

    Me: Wow. “Bwahahahahahahah!” “What a fucking clown.”

    ^^True story. I visit this site because I enjoy reading other peoples points of views on music, but it gets hard to do that when their points of views are misguided by your false advertising headlines and stories everyday. You see Senior/Brett, I don’t have it out for you, I just hate giving a person the benefit of the doubt just to be let down by their actions. If your going to take other peoples stories and work and use them for your site, why do you HAVE to reword shit and make it into something it’s not? I’m trying to understand. :-)

  • Josh

    Just putting this out there to clear up the confusion:

    Ten was released on August 27, 1991. Jeremy was the third single off Ten (after Alive and Even Flow, respectively) and released in the late spring of 1992. Ten sounds absolutely nothing like Gish – they are very different bands coming from very different musical places. As immediate influences, Pearl Jam often cite The Who, Soundgarden, and Neil Young – and cover a number of other artists (the Clash, the Ramones, and a host of others). They don’t shy away from their influences and never have.

    Also, Nirvana did not invent grunge or more specifically the sound coming out of the pacific northwest from the mid-80s to the mid-90s. Everybody Loves Our Town by Mark Yarm is a good starting point for an interesting read on the history of the musical movement. It appears one of the main start off points for the musical phenomenon was a band called Green River, featuring none other than Pearl Jam’s Jeff Ament and Stone Gossard.

  • GenXLady

    Dumb Lala’s boy or whoever…AIC broke before Nirvana actually. Nirvana just broke big into mainstream with all of the teenage angst stuff. Just sayin’. All are good bands in their own ways though. It doesn’t have to be a pissing contest. Have your opinions, just add some relevant information to back it up, without all of the junior high level insults and fighting.

    Some of you trolls just need to have your own special story thread, so you can sit on here and trade insults and nasty suggestions all day long. It does get tedious to weed through for real opinions with some of the garbage on here.

  • Lala’s Boy xx

    Let me clear a couple of things up. Neither me or LaLa are ‘trolls’, we simply prefer Smashing Pumpkins over the other bands on this site, is that so hard for some of you people to understand?! Is Billy just so shot in your eyes that you won’t let us have our own opinion and write us off as trolls?! That is totes gay and just makes me lol!

    I obviously meant Soundgardens first PROPER album was Superinknown in 1995 and that is where they changed they’re style and tried to pick up where nirvana had left off and now theire trying to sound like teargatden era pumpkins making catchy grunge like ‘we live to rise’. Chris try’s anything to sell records, if grunge is popular he’ll try it, if r&b is selling he’ll give it a go why not, that my friends is what me and LaLa call selling out.
    Anyone who thinks ten was out before nirvana or pumpkins is dumb too, probs think nevermind was Nirvanas first cd haha lmao. Bet none of you have heard songs like ‘even in his youth’ or ‘D7’ haha lol noobs.

    Alan & LaLa x

  • Matt A

    AC/DC sucks. Soundgarden does not.

  • Matt A

    I heard it sounds like a cross between Lenny Kravitz and Ace of Base.

    Just kidding.

  • Lala’s Boy xx

    And how is ‘Billy looks gay’ etc constituctave critsisem?? The only guy in any of these grunge bands that screams homosexual is Mike Maccreadey from PJ, he’s so far in the closet he’s getting bummed in Narnia! Haha lmao

    Alan & LaLa x

  • Markus

    I’m a fan of the Seattle-based-Grunge. For me the Grunge bands outside of Seattle can’t be compared to the Seattle based. The “real” Grunge in my opinion, was this community consisting of the Seattle bands with the big ones like Pearl Jam, Alice In Chains, Nirvana, Soundgarden, Mudhoney, Screaming Trees .. on top of it and all this more smaller bands like e.g. Love Battery and so on. The Stone Temple Pilots and The Smashing Pumpkins are also considered as Grunge bands because of many different factors but they have an other relationship to the Seattle-based bands. Bands like AIC, PJ, SG and ST did a lot of collaborations together and they all share this vibe. That’s what makes it difficult for me to see SP and STP news over here (though they’re of course great bands!!). As you may notice it’s like there are the Seattle-based-Grunge fans and the SP and STP fans.

  • Nicolas

    I think STP should be given a little more credit as well. Don’t forget they actually formed in 1987. Soundgarden and PJ formed in the 80’s as well and members of all three bands were in different smaller groups throughout the 80’s. So i think it’s ridiculous to accuse any of those groups of copying SP or whatever you’re saying Lala’s boy. And for Nirvana, they were not the inventors of grunge as people have already stated. If anyone I believe that title goes to Soundgarden. But they are all great bands and they are all unique. And once again Lala’s boy, just because PJ’s first album wasn’t out until 91 doesn’t mean they weren’t making music before then.

  • Nicolas

    Let me correct myself, PJ did not actually form in the 80’s however as I stated the members were already working with other smaller grunge groups and projects.

  • Austin (Howitzer114)

    @Markus… That is so true, it’s what makes Seattle based bands so special, they are all connected in sort of a giant web of music.

    I consider STP and others “alternative” rock music. I use the term “Grunge” for only Seattle bands (SG, AiC, ST,PJ, etc.)

    @Junior/Little Joe… Sorry to hear that it was your work that was posted without credit, how hard would it be for him to edit the article and link your conversation with the reviewer?

  • Josh

    I am not sure who, if anyone, said that Pearl Jam formed before Smashing Pumpkins, nor do I think it matters. Pearl Jam’s first album, Ten, was out well in advance of the Smashing Pumpkins gaining mainstream appeal, of which they did not gain until 1993 with Siamese Dream. To call Pearl Jam a Smashing Pumpkins copy is patently ridiculous, and needlessly silly. If you prefer SP to PJ that’s fine. It’s your taste. But to make a supposed factual claim that Pearl Jam copied what SP was doing is just plainly inaccurate. Read the book. It’s an oral history spoken from the people who were there in Seattle when all this music was created. It’s even an interesting book.

    As far as Nirvana goes, I’ve heard all their albums, most of the b-sides, and have been a fan for a long time, but would never argued they invented this style of music when not even they would make that claim. Every book on them even cites to the fact that they were heavily influenced by fellow Aberdeen, WA contemporaries the Melvins, as well as influenced by Seattle bands like Soundgarden.

    And for factual clarification, Nevermind was Nirvana’s second album released in September 1991. Incesticide was released in 1992 as a collection of b-sides.

  • Markus

    @ Austin, yes I agree the term Alternative Rock Band is better!
    (Smart move to write your user name in brackets :-D)

    And yes to Josh and Nicolas

  • Matt A

    I know this will piss some people off, but Nirvana was not the greatest thing to come from the Seattle scene. And I hate the fact that they’re the first thing everyone thinks of when you bring up the Seattle sound, or “grunge”.

    I do feel they would have been way better off without Cobain. He wasn’t that great of vocalist. He was entirely too pretentious for his own good. And he destroyed what potential the band did have when he offed himself.

    There is some Nirvana that I like. But there is a lot more that I never really cared for.

  • Lala’s Boy xx

    Smashing Pumpkins formed before pearl jam… FACT
    Mike maccready is homosexual… The jury is still out.

    Alan (LaLa’s boy) x

  • Lala’s Boy xx

    Kurt D Cobain and William Corgan are the innervaters of grunge period. Pearl Jam and Soundgarden formed afterwards and jumped on the bandwagon/rode coat tails of Nirvana and Pumpkins.

    Alan & LaLa x

  • Lala’s Boy xx

    Noobs here need to listen to rare Nirvana like ‘Even in his youth’, ‘milk it’, ‘sappy’ and ‘D7’, they had more than just nevermind you know ha lmao.

    Alan (LaLa’s boy) x

  • Drew

    Lala’s boy, just an FYI Soundgarden formed in 1984 and along with the Melvin’s are considered the godfathers of grunge.

  • Lala’s Boy xx

    @Drew no one knew who Soundgarden were until 1995 when Superinknown came out, who cares if they were fuckin around in their garage in the 80s, they didn’t put anything out that anyone knew until AFTER Pumpkins and Nirvana had gained mainstream success and kicked off the whole grunge movement. Pearl Jam also were late comers to the class.

    Kurt started grunge and ended it when he took his own life in 1993 after release of In Utero :-( Billy who was second on scene releasing Gish in 1991 continues to put out amazing music but less grungey because he respected Kurt and they were friends. Soundgarden released their first grunge Cd in 1995 because Chris knew hole in Market left from nirvana ending. Pearl jam are just pearl jam, they did a grunge album ten when it was popular then switched there style on every album after but they WERE AFTER Pumpkins and Nirvana… FACT!

    God it’s hard explaining to some of you.. Keep up lol!

    Alan & LaLa x

  • the keeper

    Lalas boy what is your point? Music is subjective, you just continue with these immature arguments. Are you 15 years old?

  • Markus

    Goddamnit -.- You might not have known Soundgarden when they “came out 1994/95” but many people did. Why do you have to be so narrow-minded?
    I think the keeper is right but I would say 14 😉

  • Stormin Gordon

    wow, this fuckin comments are so fucking stupid.
    so brett, you banned be for minor things than this stupid shit.
    we ALL know that you banned BE for trashing your idol Scott Weiland.
    Get your head out of your ass and the “unbann” the IP Adress of BE ban this shitheads

  • Lala’s Boy xx

    My point is that Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins started grunge and were the true innervaters of it. That is all. Everyone can listen to what they want obviously, it was just frustrating that ppl here were saying pearl jam and Soundgarden were around first.

    Also I am 34 and LaLa is 18 not that it’s relavant to this argumant. LaLa knows more about grunge than most and she wasn’t born until 1994 the year AFTER Kurt died!

    Alan & LaLa x

  • Lala’s Boy xx

    Oh me and LaLa found out today we are expecting a baby too!! just thought you dudes may wanna know.We’ve got 2 names for if it’s a boy… Billy or Kurt :-)

    LaLa wants to call it Courtney of it’s a grl but I hated her bcos she had Kurt killed and was horrible to billy too.

    Alan (LaLa’s boy) x

  • LOL

    LALLAALALALLALAALALALALALALALALALALoooooLLLLLLLLALALALAALALALALALAL

    OK now what were we discussing oh SG sounding like ACDC and some psychedelic mixed in. Let it roll!

  • Brett

    Gordon, Be aka The General was banned, and continues to be banned, because he says the same thing every fucking time when trolling. EDDIE IS GOD, FUCK WEILAND/GAYLAND. If he was more creative and actually funny, I wouldn’t mind his ripping on “my idol” Scott Weiland.

    I just banned Lala’s Boy xx because his shtick got stale too. It was funny the first day he did it but it’s the same shit over and over again over the last week now. We get it, you’re getting the wrong years on albums intentionally and when on bands formed to try and piss people off. He also trolled the ‘Who should sing on Mad Season?’ article as well under different names. He was a bit more clever on that.

    Iso at least has original insults every time he trolls. He makes me laugh, therefore I haven’t banned him.

  • SuperSG

    Alright, I know Lala s boy is playing retard, but i gotta rant at that comment about Nirvana and Smashing starting Grunge…… NO!, SOUNDGARDEN AND THE MELVINS WERE THE FIRST BIGTIME GRUNGE BANDS!! AND NEIL FUCKING YOUNG IS THE TRUE ORIGIN OF THE REBELLIOUS, GRUNGE SOUND, SO FUCK U LALA CLAN!!!!!¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡

  • Brett

    SuperSG,

    Lala’s Boy knows the real years all of these things happened. Also, he is not affiliated with Lala. He is trolling her too. He’s trolling everyone.

  • SuperSG

    merci beaucoup

  • Lala’s Boy xx

    LaLa left me :-(
    I called her Billy during sex, how could I be SP stupid… Don’t worry guys I won’t be posting here again, or anywhere for that matter, nothing matters now that she is gone.

    ‘I’m not like them, I cant pretend, LaLa is gone, I have no life, the day is done, it’s no more fun, you’re right I’m dumb and really unhappy’

    Goodbye

    Alan (LaLa’s ex)

  • Badmotorfinger

    Wait… is Lala’s Boy really saying Superunknown was the first proper album? Badmotorfinger is one of the greates achievements in rock, in my opinion. I love the Pumpkins but everything after Mellon Collie is pretty sucky. I’d rather not make love to Owata and instead put on Searching With My Good Eye Closed.

  • John

    My lord, I disappear for a few days and look what happens! Troll city up in here! In the words of McDonalds, I’m loving it!

  • Electric Fun

    i’m a troll… nah

  • Grungy

    Nice to see things settle down now, at least for now.
    SG always changed there sound on purpose every album.
    With the long time off I expect a totally new sound that might suprise most in a positive way.

  • billy

    The AC/DC reference could be accurate. When Cochise was released, a friend of mine who doesnt listen to this type of music said it sounded like AC/DC. I can kind of see it, thats all the writer meant is what i’m guessing

  • SuperSG

    I just wanna hear a clip of something off the album other than Live To Rise. I wanna hear Cornell without that annoying background reverb.

  • Rodrigo

    i just commented on a youtube video that i like almost all the tracks on DOTU except “tighter and tighter”. It just doesn’t fit the context of the album; too bluesy and too experimental for soundgarden EVEN if the album itself is ALMOST experimental.

  • Cody

    rodrigo you fool

  • x2x

    “tighter and tighter” Is tight baby. DOTUS is a far out trippy SOB.

  • jesse

    The headline to this article is completly misleading.

  • SuperSG

    how is the title misleading?

  • Shadow on the Sun

    @Rodrigo Tighter & Tighter I would call one of their best songs period imo. If you don’t think that song fits then you must think overfloater doesnt either. The verses of that song are moody and bluesy.

  • SuperSG

    I think Zero Chance is am unknowm gem. Im actually listening to it now.

  • SuperSG

    I wish I could cop a youtube view of CC performing a new song on his tour… I wish…

  • SuperSG

    Mayan Calendar??? yoohooo… I NEED ENTERTAINMENT!!!…Lso… hellooo???

  • SuperSG

    GodDamnit I hate how 85% of this articles comments are by Lalas Boy about false Pumpkins stuff. Meanwhile the other 15% of us are getting pissed off… This was supposed to be a SG article, not SP!

  • GrungeJunkie385

    Fuck Lala Boy. Good god. Talk about not knowing your face from your asshole. What the fuck is wrong with you? If you’re just here to spew nonsense and piss people off, you’ve achieved your goal. However, you seem to genuinely believe your horribly incorrect history as far as the grunge bands go. You and your whale of a girl need to pack it up and go home. You clearly know nothing. Go hump your Billy Corgan posters and CDs and the iPod you put the mp3’s on. Seriously. Soundgarden are arguably the godfathers of grunge along with Alice. The Pumpkins are not nearly as influential as the other bands on this site. This thread was about SG but you bastardized it to talk about Billy. The guy has an ego as big as that collossal bald head of his and is an asshole towards a lot of people – especially the former band mates that made SP possible in the beginning like Chamberlain and Iha. I’ve seen every band on this site live with the exception of Nirvana and SP was the biggest disappointment live. Of course SP has the most poppy music of all so it didn’t come as a surprise. Anyway, I CANNOT wait for Soundgarden’s album and supporting tour! They kill it live. And Lala, for god’s sake please spend an hour and educate yourself before you spout off bullshit as if it’s fact. Otherwise you start to sound like every conservative politician ever.

  • SuperSG

    ^^^^ right on target bro..

  • SuperSG

    HA!!! Now this article has more comments than that stupid corgan article!

  • iHopi

    So Oct 2012 is official I guess but when will they release a single?
    Then when B-Sides?

  • Adam

    i’m a huge cameron fan, that guy is a great drummer.

    i hope they get a solid drum tone for him on this upcoming record and i can’t wait for his performances, too.

  • jjc19461

    Stone Temple Pilots are the grunge band that started the whole musical movement anyways. No doubt in my mind, because Soundgarden, Alice In Chains, Pearl Jam, Nirvana, and most of all, the Smashing Pumpkins are clearly influenced by them. Not only in albums such as Dirt or Ten, and even in Bleach and Superunknown. Not to forget Badmotorfinger, which also has Cornell singing like Scott ( listen to Holy Water, Drawing Flies.) However, Billy Corgan is the one who tries to imitate Weiland the most. The way he acts, the way he talks, and the way he sings! I just don’t get that about Billy, why don’t you try to be original for once? Everytime i hear a Smashing Pumpkins song, especially an older one (such as on Gish or Siamese Dream) instantly i am reminded of Weiland’s Christmas Album. It’s quite sad how he has to copy from someone else other then himself. Im starting to think Billy Corgan is actually Scott Weiland. It is just one of Scott’s characters that was part of his persona.
    SCOTT/BILLY IS GOD! 😀 😀 😀 😀 😀

  • Matt

    Yeah, ok.

  • Markus

    That’s just spam, ignore them, because they are not even real 😉

  • King Cornell

    It’s been a few months since I have been on these comment boards and you guys are really trashing the site. Talk about the music. I see all these new trolls and they should be banned in my opinion.

    Now, as for the story here, I am glad the magazines approve so far and look forward to the album in a few months.

  • MAYAN CALENDAR 2012

    GRUNGE IS HERE TO STAY, SOUNDGARDEN ROCK ALL THE WAY
    SO FUCK YOU HATERS, YOU CAN ALL BITE ON AN ATOMIC BOMB OK??
    :)

  • Ben

    @ King Cornell

    I agree with you. The spam is really ruining this site. I don’t enjoy reading the comments anymore.
    Majority aren’t even relevant to the article – not to mention most of it is just complete non-sense!

    I hate to think what the comments section will be like when Soundgarden release the new album! Lets hope the spammers will be blocked by then!

  • Matt

    The mindless trolling/spamming/arguing has overtaken the site and ruined the discussions. Not to mention the random weirdo comments from some posters I don’t think I have to even mention.

  • psychic vampire

    to jjc19461

    i truly hope your lesbian mom or your homosexual dad gets gangraped by a bunch of black dudes man or woman, whoever the hell you are, and they make her or him so anally loose that she or he shits her pants constantly.

  • Dennis

    Holy poop that was a lot of posts.

    Oh, and Junior is a dick. That is all.

  • Senior

    I’m glad I’m not the only one who thinks junior is an epic tool

  • TONI K IS A CNT

    Hopefully the band will override and songs that are negatively influenced by the two pigs in Cornell’s life that give him bad business and music advice. Keep that Yoko Ono he married out of Soundgarden.