Mike McCready Discusses Pearl Jam’s Relationship With Kurt Cobain

Mike McCready discussed Pearl Jam’s relationship with Kurt Cobain in a new interview with Esquire.

“I’m working on a documentary called The Glamour and the Squalor right now, about a DJ named Marco Collins from Seattle and also San Diego. He was kind of integral to that time, with the alternative bands, all of us, on the radio, in Seattle. There’s some footage of Kurt [Cobain, in the documentary], of him talking about In Utero, and it made me think, “Wow, he’s so young.” He was in his mid-20s, when they interviewed him, and it brought me back to that time when there was this supposed tension between all of us, this press-created thing. There probably was some of that, but toward the end of it, there wasn’t. I think he and Ed had talked. I remember we were at the MTV VMAs, and I just jumped over the seats, and I said [to Cobain], “Hey, I heard you and Ed might be doing a record some day. I’d love to play a lead on it.” And he goes, “Oh, we’ll talk about it some other time.” I just felt like I had to reach out, because there was this weird wall between us, us versus them or them versus us, and it wasn’t. We all came from the same scene, in my mind. We came out of a very provincial city that was not very supportive of music, and we had to do our own thing, and flyer everywhere. There was never support from the city to do music there, not as there is now. We had to do that, Nirvana had to do that, the Soundgarden guys did that, but we’d all go to each other’s shows, too. We’d go to the same parties. So we all kind of came up together. When it got huge and we all went on the road, we were happy for everyone else, and I wish Kurt was happy, too. In this documentary, it made me kind of sad, obviously, to see him as such a young man, and wish he could be around to see where they’d be now, you know what I mean? It’s poignant and it’s celebratory, but also, there’s some sadness and darkness that goes along with it. That being said, In Utero is a fantastic record. I’m glad we’re still around. Soundgarden put out a record last year. Mudhoney played on top of the Space Needle. All sorts of cool stuff has happened, and I celebrate that. What that means today is, wow, we’re still around, I’m very grateful for it. There’s some beauty to it. And there’s some sadness.”

  • Chris

    That documentary sounds great.

    I’ve often had similar thoughts about Kurt, about how young he was when it all happened relative to where he might be now. You kind of juxtapose his rise and fall with where Pearl Jam is now and where Dave Grohl is now, and it definitely makes me a bit sad about where they might have gone, what direction Kurt with or without Nirvana would have gone musically. So much has happened since then.

    • DnnyLool

      Does make you think..
      i mean Kurt Cobain was only 24 when Nevermind came out and blew up . He was 26 when In Utero came out. Dave Grohl was still only 24 when Kurt killed himself and Nirvana were all over .

      As for what music Kurt Cobain might have done ? I think he would have split Nirvana and done low key stuff with people like Lanegan and so on . Lanegan was a good friend of Kurts. Might have done something with Dylan Carlson and Earth. I don’t think he would have had any interest in maintaining Nirvana as such. Although they did have studio time booked to go back to Rob Lang studio sometime in June of that year. Also Greg Sage said Kurt did book some studio time with him for some possible side project…

      oh well . Kurt was in a bad way by 94.

  • Boom

    Boom say this. In those days when the Kurt was alive Mcready was wacked out of his mind on drugs. This probably didn’t happen. If did then who gives a fuck, so Mcready once said I want to make record with you. Boom one time say I want to fuck you in ass, that didn’t happen either. And fuck Courtney the cunt in the face.

    And Boom say this. This site fucking boring when Boom no here. People know it too.
    Boom out!!

  • unglued

    If Nirvana had made a team with pj then grunge have got more popularity. So sad.

  • Boom

    Boom forgot to mention his love for black dicks.

    Boom out!!

    • Munson

      Fuck you child

  • DnnyLool

    Tho Kurt ended up liking Eddie as a person and said he regreted saying some things he did – he still didn’t like Pearl Jam as a band . lets not kid ourselves over that.

  • sonic_junkie

    I highly doubt Kurt had any real intentions of making a record with Eddie. It is however a well known fact that he was working on a project with Michael Stipe from REM. They were faxing ideas back and forth to each other in the months leading up to Kurt’s death.

    • DnnyLool

      That was more Michael Stipe trying to get Kurt focused and to forget about his problems. Nothing was written for it according to Stipe.

      • sonic_junkie

        You could be right. I remember Kurt saying he had written virtually nothing after In Utero came out. I think You Know You’re Right and Do Re Mi were about it from that period.

  • Rambo

    Yo! This is Rambo! You need to change the name of this site to PearlJamNation.net. Seems to be the only band you feature these days! Rambo says, “FREEEEEEDOMMMMMMMM!!!

  • ChristopherRRRobbin

    The ‘grunge’ movement (and the many of the Seattle-area bands that came out of it) was Manufactured by the same people who brought us the Laurel Canyon scene (see Dave McGowan’s stuff). Kurt may have been one of the few artists within the scene that was not consciously working as Controlled Opposition.

    Any fellow musician who talks about how “messed up” Kurt was in ’94 is reciting the media talking points, and is highly suspicious. Kurt seems to have discovered that not only was the industry cheesy, but filled with infiltrators. Kurt was trying to run away.

    • DnnyLool

      Kurt had a wife cheating on him , had a huge heroin problem and had always been prone to depression. It just took its toll and he opted for the extreme way out.

      He killed himself. No one else did.

      • ChristopherRRRobbin

        Nice try, but thats just good old’ Disinformation.

        • DnnyLool

          Let me guess youve read some Tom Green and trying to fit it with some illuminati crap

  • FedUp

    It’s amazingly pathetic how every member of Pearl Jam is obsessed with painting a picture of how Kurt Cobain really, really liked them and supposedly finally came around and approved of them. Their propagandist Cameron Crowe even dedicated a sizable portion of “Pearl Jam 20” to this very topic. Why??! The fact of the matter is he thought their music sucked bad. Yes, toward the end, he went as far as to say he liked Eddie Vedder as a person. But as far as the music, he stayed true to his belief that they were watered-down LA-style cock-rock disguised as grunge/alternative.

    • Seanumich

      Kurt Cobans opinion about ANYTHING needs to be taken as what is is, CRAP The best evidence I have is who he married. End of discussion. By the way, tthose that KNEW Cobaiin disagree, but you obviusly think you know more