LISTEN TO CLIPS FROM NEW SMASHING PUMPKINS ALBUM ‘OCEANIA’

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EVENING UPDATE: Somebody ripped the pulled Amazon clips and put them online. I’m surprised Billy isn’t releasing “Quasar” as a single, musically it sounds like Siamese Dream and would probably get some airplay. There seems to be some potential here, we’ll see when the album is released next month. Quasar, Panopticon, Pale Horse, Oceania, The Chimera, and Inkless seem to have the most potential. Quasar and Inkless especially.

Thanks to Andrei:

Click here to listen to clips from Oceania on Amazon

  • Wes C. Addle

    No links available to play samples on Amazon through the provided link.

  • Andrei

    Billy apparently pulled them off.

    I managed to listen to the first half of the album (the teasers) and it was a bit underwhelming but I’m keeping hope that teasers don’t make the songs justice.

  • facepollution
  • Espents

    Sounds booring!

  • Espents

    I had hopes for this album, but now i dont know. Wished he stopped playing so much keyboard and focus more on rock songs.

  • Craigory52

    This sounds much more like Zwan than Smashing Pumpkins…… I love the sound of the title track. Quasar rocks! Their others that sound ok but I’d have to hear the whole tracks. So far, I’m not really liking what I’m hearing as much as I wanted to. Best since Mellon Collie, Billy? By these clips that is a NO WAY!

  • The Incredible Mr. Mark Arm

    Machina I is a masterpiece

  • BlownUpWorld

    Sounds pretty good to me

  • Steve K

    I’m only judging by the clips, so from what I hear, it sounds a bit better than zeitgeist, and I didn’t like that album much at all, but that’s about it. Not liking all the synth shit. Best since mellon collie?? U kidding me??? Man, I’m really hoping when I hear the full tracks I will love it, but judging just by the clips, I don’t think so. We’ll see I guess. If this album is a let down, then the smashing pumpkins truly are DEAD to me. I will then just enjoy everything from gish to the machinas for the rest of my life. —crossing fingers—

  • zdcz

    Songs sound to much alike and Bills voice is to nasally on every song. Will wait for the full songs before I fully judge it. From what I heard sounds like a mellow sound and the hard stuff is for someone else.

  • nate

    This sounds like utter shit. There is no soul in any of these songs. Very bland, boring, repetitive sounding. Just proves what the other 3 original band members meant to the sound.

  • Samantha

    i don’t like it. it isn’t smashing pumpkins… it’s just billy doing billy stuff and that’s ok. it would have been better to release as his solo material. anyway, if you consider it smashing pumpkins or not….. i just don’t like the material and i even supported zeitgeist which i also wound up not caring for. it’s not the full album… but i would walk away from a listening party on this alone. let go of the past and move on billy. the other members did that. maybe make soundtrack music, small digital ep’s of your own stuff and just let smashing pumpkins be. you have to stop carrying the name around like louise post from veruca salt. it doesn’t work.

  • http://youtube.com/spoceania lala

    all the songs are amazing. you grunge haters go and listen to scott weiland x mas album. argument about “other” members is so idiotic. you are a bunch of idiots. fuck you

  • Jason

    It’s very difficult to judge the album based on these clips. Most of the album exists as “live tracks” and they have all been really great live. The tracks in the samples alone may not entice you but Billy has promoted the album as a “full experience”, meaning you have to listen from the start to the end. I still feel we’re in for some surprises here (of the good kind). Synth, acoustic, rock, ballad, slow burner…whatever goes, these qualities all existed in Siamese Dream, Mellon Collie and Machina and is the DNA of this band and Billy…Why knock it when they are effectively delivering what we’ve all really wanted. Surely we don’t want them sounding like everyone else…creating the same old thing and not doing something new..this is why I loved and love the Pumpkins…Quasar, Panopticon,Oceania, Pale Horse, My Love Is Winter and Pinwheels have been great live so I expect the same from the album as a whole.

    Well anyway…as I’ve changed over the years and I should expect Billy and this band to do the same. For too long it’s generally been “bring back the old days” vibe, to only be left disappointed…I think it’s time to “acknowledge the now” and to “start the new”! I need to change my selfish ways and enjoy what I can whilst I can…

    Oh…and the band is sounding sweeeeeetttttt!!!!! live…Wish I could see them perform again…*sigh

  • http://youtube.com/spoceania lala

    @nate

    wow you can judge the “soul” of the low quality Amazon 30 sec audio clips? you are a genius!!! don’t ever comment about SP again buddy. you don’t know shit!!!

  • Dreux

    Shut the fuck up, lala. You’re no better than the likes of be, or anybody who takes “grunge” as a lifestyle, or even a punk rocker or a metal head for that matter. People are just being a critical. These clips are just underwhelming to some of us because your God, Billy said it was considered amongst friends to be SP’s best album since Mellon Collie. No one’s saying these songs suck, they are just a little disappointed. I think it sounds good for the most part(perhaps some songs sound too similar and don’t really sound like Smashing Pumpkins to me), and I don’t need Billy’s dick in my mouth to think so. Just chill out.

  • Dreux

    * a LITTLE critical

  • http://youtube.com/spoceania lala

    @Dreux

    grunge as a lifestyle in 2012??? you do know that the two guys from SupPop invented “grunge” as a marketing trick (paid Soundgarden, AIC, etc. to dress in flanel, etc.) you want an album from SP sound like grunge in 2012??? you cannot judge low quality 30 sec Amazon clips as songs! doesn’t sound like SP? that is just a stupid comment. what is your definition of sounding like SP? Adore? Machina? Gish? Zeitgeist? LOL. SP = always new sound.

  • Dreux

    lala, did you even read my comment, or just skim through it and assume you knew what you were reading? “that is just a stupid comment”. Then please, enlighten me and tell me where the stupidity lies in that comment you clearly didn’t bother reading thoroughly enough to understand.

  • http://youtube.com/spoceania lala

    @Dreux

    your comment isn’t logical because you said that the “clips” don’t sound to you like SP and since SP has got an ever changing sound your comment isn’t logical.

    and I am not insulting you. I am just mad at grunge and hipster assholes that are ripping MY band! if you don’t like SP than fuck off and go listen to Dirt or Facelift or whatever and stupd hating on my band!!!

  • Jason

    I see the venom is of high potency…I guess the question really is: “Who are the Smashing Pumpkins”?

    Did they sound like GISH-era when they did Siamese Dream? Maybe, kinda…Did they sound like S.D.-era when they did Mellon Collie? No ways…short of a track or two maybe. The same goes for every album after.

    So why is Oceania and the little bit of track available here (not including the live versions now btw) so highly criticised? We should expect them to sound different, to evolve, to not sound like everybody else…it is why we love them right? I’m a big fan but I can call a spade a spade. Until I hear the album through decent speakers and perhaps 2 or 3 more times after, will I call it what it is. In the end it’s really only my opinion and who the fuck am I? Who the fuck are you? Exactly! The mere fact that we’re discussing Billy and the Pumpkins in 2012 is fantastic…So bitch or praise…your constant feedback will alert more people to the event that is Oceania.

    Proceed with your gushing praise or grunts of dislike…just make sure EVERYONE hears you talking about The Smashing Pumpkins.

  • Dreux

    lala, I’m not a “grunge” fan, or a hipster. If you actually read my comment you would have noted that I was basically criticizing the very idea of adopting any genre of music as a lifestyle or showing some kind of ridiculous loyalty to any one band. Hence why I said “you’re no better than the likes of be” (and if you don’t know who BE is, he’s a retarded PJ fanboy who frequently writes “EDDIE IS GOD” on any post about PJ on the site). Now, as for the lack of logic in my comment regarding me thinking that the clips don’t sound like Smashing Pumpkins (which I never said; I only said some songs seem to lack that key sound), I have to say that you as an SP fan should know better. Smashing Pumpkins always experimented with instrumentation and production, yes, but their early work (specifically their first 3 albums) all had a consistent sound, characterized by a very unique mix of psychedelia, hard rock, Beatles-esque melodies, and elements of shoegazing. SP is known for that sound, and I do hear it on some of these clips. On others, I do not. And I’m not “trashing” your band, I’m calling you out on your assumption that anyone who is underwhelmed by these clips is just some close-minded “grunge” freak. By assuming that I am indeed that close-minded, when I clearly am not, and seem to think that people should just “fuck off” for just being a little critical proves my initial point. You’re no more open minded than anyone. You make assumptions and are limited in your perspective by letting your fanboyism get in the way of thinking objectively. Your behavior reminds me of, what I’m guessing you would assume to be, the average Nirvana fanboy. It doesn’t matter what band or genre of music you dedicate yourself to, the problem is that you dedicate yourself to it. Period.

  • http://youtube.com/spoceania lala

    @Dreux

    first three albums had a similar sound? are you kidding? gish fans hated SD because it sounded nothing like Gish. SD fans hated MellonCollie because it didn’t sound anything like SD, etc.

  • Dreux

    lala, I didn’t say they sounded the same. They had a consistent “thread” of a sound, I’ll put it that way. I think the most important factor in this thread of a sound was the use of Hendrix-inspired chords used in songwriting. They are very distinctive and they are constant on all three of those albums. Pick any one of their big hits from those three albums and you’ll hear it.

  • Dreux

    Listen to the clips of “Quasar”, “Panopticon”, and “Inkless” and you’ll hear what I’m referring to. Listen to the clip of “The Celestials” and you will not hear it. It doesn’t mean “The Celestials” is a bad song (judging by the clip), it’s just a different style that lacks that key ingredient.

  • Jason

    Lala messed up with the grunge haters comment sure…but I feel the idea behind his/her message overall was that people, in general, need to check their comments before blurting them out…Eg. To say the songs have no soul from a 30sec clip is really bad…you have to admit. To say the band doesn’t sound like them is also wrong because the band has always changed it…for the good or not. Comments that hold no ground is just white noise for the sake of kicking up a fuss and are just dumb…who cares really…

    The Pumpkins were never really liked but mostly considered good…so it’s no different now if the comments on this post are anything to go by. You can’t knock fans…it’s human DNA…be it bands, sports teams, whatever…to try discount it and say it’s wrong or wrongful is on the edge of worthless dude. Some people follow things blindly and passion makes one act and say crazy things…Lala is clearly a big fan but who are you (or who am I) to knock him for it. @Dreux, I think you were trying to point out that everyone has a fair go at something and you shouldn’t take it to heart…as long as you know the quality of the thing / band that you like and love…and give people as much space as you would expect for yourself. The mere fact that there is an argument here is because you guys aren’t doing that. You knock him for being a fan and, metaphorically speaking, standing on one side of the fence yet yourself are standing on the opposite side. Think about it…move on…

    “Give peace a chance”

    PS: I’m a crazy Pumpkins fan btw…I don’t like people saying bad things about them BUT I know they are not always great and I know people will always have a go. I know what I know and like so gives a rats ass…be careful how you choose pigeonhole people…

  • http://youtube.com/spoceania lala

    @Dreux

    again i don’t agree with you. many, many songs on the first three albums don’t have your definition of a “key element” (suffer, crush, daydream, sweet sweet, luna, spaceboy, to forgive, by starlight, etc.) the key element in my opinion is DYNAMIC factor of the songs and this factor is present in ALL the albums and this factor means you cannot judge songs on 30 sec clips (maybe Celestials has got that guitar solo, you cannot tell)

  • Espents

    Too much keyboard and synth. Wished Billy has brought back the classic sound of the three first albums. His singing sounds bad also, and this comes from a big SP fan.

  • http://youtube.com/spoceania lala

    @Espents

    Jesus again with the stupid comments. Singing is bad? Jesus … it is a 30 sec LOW Q Amazon.com preview rip. Please dude don’t post about SP again. Stupid, stupid, stupid

  • Dreux

    @Jason
    Thank you for the response. I’m not really counting in all the comments regarding any “lack of passion” or anything. In my own opinion, judging by these clips, I am looking forward to the album. I like what I’m hearing in these clips. I was more focused on the bad reasoning lala presented for people not liking it. He/she is right for saying that you shouldn’t judge a song by 30 seconds. And please understand that I’m not saying something like “people shouldn’t love bands, or have favorite bands”. What I’m saying is that people just need to be a little objective is all and try to take in what people have to say. If all they have to say is white noise like “it’s got no passion” based on 30 seconds and without any real reasoning behind it, than it is indeed garbage criticism, but it’s no different than responding to that garbage with more garbage. I’ve got nothing against SP, or Billy, or his fans. I just don’t appreciate the kind of mentality die hard fans of anything tend to have. Coincidentally, it’s the exact same mentality that die hard haters of something have. Passion is important. A hater can have just as much passion as a fan. But what’s also important is rationalizing, and that’s important if you love something. It keeps you from turning that passion for what you love into venom when you see someone knocking what you like. What it comes down to is this: the opinion does not matter, and the subject of the opinion does not matter. What matters is the person throwing in their two cents.
    If you’re a fan of Smashing Pumpkins and you feel the need to defend them (lala), rest easy and know that I will buy this album the day it comes out.

  • http://youtube.com/spoceania lala

    @Dreux

    i respect your last comment

  • Jason

    @Dreux

    Nice one dude…well explained there. I suspect if you had used that style to comment originally you could have avoided this “argument”. You sound level headed to me…I can’t agree with all your comments on the band’s sound and sound of albums though…lol…but we can agree to disagree on that…it’s cool… :)

    @lala

    I know it stings to read negative things about the Pumpkins…it provoked you and drew out the obsession there. All good…but don’t let it get to you…As a crazed fan myself I’ve learnt to not “fight” the so called “haters” because, as with us all really, it is too easy to point out faults (and those of the band and Billy). Its far harder trying to justify the positive with society being what it is today. Most of the comments here have been partially unfair and we know why…let them go tell all their mates about how much they disliked the clips…the more people hear the name the more interested those people get to actually try the album (in cases where they may have not bothered at all). So you and I win because, even if only 5% convert to being fans because of it, it further highlights the qualities you and I have already seen and appreciated for all these years.

    You guys hear the live versions of some of these tracks? They pretty rad huh…and clips on YouTube?..pretty awesome too…anyway…stay cool guys (or gals or gal or…)..haha…

  • Espents

    So if you dont write positive things about SP then youre a hater? Its ok to be critical and not praise all the work that Billy does. Anyway i will not give up on the album before i hear it in good quality. But based on these clips im a bit disapointed, i think the songs sound a bit boring and to much use of synth and keyboard. Its only 30 seconds so hopefully it is better.

    Btw excuse me for bad english, its not easy to write excately what you mean in a foreign language.

  • Jason

    @Espents

    Not a hater dude…a “hater”…in inverted commas. A loose term to describe those that, well, go out of their way to ramble complete nonsense of the band and its parts for no other reason other than spite, to stir up emotion, sound important even and so on…The band has always had a reputation for attracting spiteful characters. These “haters” exist for other things too…those who don’t like your football team, the type of computer you use, etc. “Hater” is really just a nice alternative way of calling some people really rude and obscene things. However, that brush is sometimes far too broad so maybe not the best “label” to attach on any person.

    I don’t think anyone is suggesting not to criticize the band…just be sure you base your facts on valid reasoning. So by all means, give it all you got…if you like or don’t like the band, the album or a particular song. Just back it up with a solid explanation is all…

  • bill

    #1, people are judging off of 30 second Amazon clips which sound incredibly low quality (not the music itself, it sounds like it’s being played through a homemade speaker or something)

    #2, for those who say it “doesn’t sound like Smashing Pumpkins,” did Adore or Machina sound like Smashing Pumpkins when they were released? Their sound changes every album, which is one reason why they’re so great. Give me a break. This is SP.

  • http://youtube.com/spoceania lala

    @bill

    +

  • bon3zz

    not working haha, butt fuck it anyway, don’t care about this douche’s band anyway

  • http://youtube.com/spoceania lala

    @bon3zz

    only a douche would make a comment like that. haha

    fuck off grunger

  • Samantha

    i’m going all out to follow my comment… it sucks. the album sucks and that is my opinion. billy should stop dragging the smashing pumpkins name through the mud. he could release this in his own name or a new band. this is not smashing pumpkins. the imagery is cool, the songs are billy… but not sp. you have to move on billy. if you are going to call it a pumpkins album… then it sucks major. let go of the name.

  • http://youtube.com/spoceania lala

    @Samantha

    just fuck off. from a 1000 SP song billy wrote 995 songs. his band, his music, his direction and now you know this and go and fuck off

  • Samantha

    @lala

    please try and make some sense. the other members realized it was time to leave the band behind. billy did not write the bass lines, drum parts or lead guitar. billy is just dragging the name through the mud. it took four to make their sound… and billy can’t replicate it. this is just old and tired. billy would be better off to grow up and continue his career with his own name for some dignity. it is not smashing pumpkins. the clips are enough for me to say hey, it’s time to let the sp name rest on it’s own merits and time for billy to stop kicking it.

  • http://youtube.com/spoceania lala

    @Samantha

    billy wrote bass lines, billy told jimmy and james what to play, billy wrote 99,5% songs.

    bands with only one original member: the cure, NiN, melvins, Iron Maiden, Lemonheads, Lynyrd Skynyrd, Beach Boys, Motörhead, GnR, etc.

    you don’t get it. so like I said fuck off

  • Espents

    Maiden one member? Everyone in the band writes songs besides Nicko mc brain. Nowdays Adrian Smith writes most of the music.

  • http://youtube.com/spoceania lala

    in maiden only steve harris is an original member.

  • Espents

    Dave Murray also

  • nate

    @lala

    Yes, I can get a vibe from 30 seconds of each song. They all sound the same. No magic here. Each song sounds exactly like something newer bands are putting out on the radio, not a good thing. I’m big fan of Smashing Pumpkins, but everything Billy has put out since the original band disbanded has been awful.

  • http://youtube.com/spoceania lala

    no his not. he joined Maiden in 1976. you don’t know what are you talking about

  • http://youtube.com/spoceania lala

    @nate

    yes Quasar sounds exactly like My Love is Winter and everything on the radio. LOL!!! you are just a hater. how can you make such, such stupid comments!

    how can you say this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Svbj4VAp5E

    sounds the same as this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPaOWKfE_fI&feature=relmfu

    you know shit. you are just a hater

  • kramer

    I was better off not listening to the clips.

  • Craigory52

    I listened to the clips more after my previous post and the truth is, I was more excited when I heard the Zeitgeist clips but I’m still going to listen to the album to get a feel of it. I still think there is a lot of Zwan sounding songs on here. I really can’t wait to hear Quasar, Panopticon, and the title track more than anything else. Quasar definitely sounds like it will be one of their best openers to the album. Very Gish-like. I heard all of the tracks performed live and those 3 were the songs that really make me want to hear the studio versions because by the clips they sound much like the live versions. Songs like The Chimera, Glissandra, and My Love Is Winter sound very “Honestly”-like and Zwan-y. It’s hard to judge by just clips but I hope this will be better than what I’m expecting. So far I even like Zeitgeist better. But then again I still want to hear the full album to gather my opinion track through track. I just wish Billy would put some umph and passion back in his vocals that he had in the pre-Zeitgeist before the break up albums.

  • Espents
  • T drizzel

    Machina 1 was their best sounding album. Then Adore. Then Mellon. Then Siamese. BEST SOUNDING. I repeat best sounding.

    The mixing and production, mood, sound, the image of the band was awesome….

    Im just mentioning this because Oceania songs from what i heard are not better songs than Machina 1. And I dont think Oceania’s sound will be better than Machina 1. So i dont know what Billy was talking about – “best since Mellon”?.. i think he’s just trying to trick people, Billy has grown into a buisness person so he’s using buisness tricks like what hes saying.

    Machina 1 for the win…. FLOOD

  • Leonardo Furtado

    This is AMAZING, you guys know shit, don’t talk about what you don’t understand for fuck sakes.

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