Kurt Cobain’s Ex-Girlfriend ‘Received Death Threats’ From Courtney Love

Yesterday, we reported on Kurt Cobain’s ex-girlfriend Mary Lou Lord unloading on Courtney Love in a Facebook post. When went even more in-depth on a second post:

“I just wanted to thank you guys for being cool and tolerating my ranting

about CL over the last few days. Something did indeed spark it…but I’m trying to let it all go now. A lot of you (old friends), were right there with me in the middle of this black tornado’s thrust, and I know it effected you too. It was a very weird and sad time for so many of us. For those of you who were there, this is for you too. I know your feelings aren’t that far removed. And although we don’t see each other much these days, know I love you.

I know this is long, and boring….and yes, it is public. It’s just as public as the VERY public (in print, etc) , kick in the guts she gave me over an extended amount of time, and extended amount of threats. One, that has been a long time getting over, and one, that’s been a long time letting go of. Everyone should be able to have their day where they say exactly what they have wanted to say to someone who violated them. I’m most likely never gonna write a book, and if I suddenly croak, I want to finally have my say and my voice heard on this. Not hers. Mine.

I’ve mentioned things here and there, but out of respect for Kurt and Frances, I never fully publicized ALL my feelings on this subject. No kid should have to read shitty things said about their parents. Especially when they are unable to understand or formulate their own opinions. Also, in the past, when I did say a few things here and there, it was FOR Frances if she had ever read what Courtney herself said about me concerning Kurt. What Courtney said, was actually a put down to her own husband. Those of you who know what I am talking about will understand what I mean. I said it in defense OF Kurt. He was NOT that kind of a guy who would do that. I wanted Frances (if she had ever privately read it), to know that. -That was one of the other incredibly disturbing aspects of Courtney’s lies. How it was also a total defamation of Kurt’s character within the context of her lie, and her wording. Printed in Rolling Stone, just weeks after he had died, when SHE was on the cover. And of course, Hole’s Live Through This, was #1. And, for weeks after this, it was HER not ME who was bringing attention to any involvement I might have had with him. I felt like a dork. I NEVER brought it up in interviews. It was her who planted any of the fucked up attention it got to begin with. I just wanted to hide and cry.

In the past, I let (or, I thought I had), let it go. I guess that for some reason there was still a part that I hadn’t let go of. Anger is shitty. Anger over something that happened 22 years ago. It might have something to do with these movies coming out, and having to partially re-live a feeling that never really went away. Or, was dormant. Seeing her or even hearing about her, kind of jolts me into anger. Why now? I dunno. Why do some people who got violated by priests, or hurt decades prior suddenly have the need to come forth and tell their story? I was absolutely emotionally violated by her, and it hurt me more than anyone will ever know. The defamation, the lies, and the spin off of that. Having to deal over the years with fans of hers who hated me for something that was not true to begin with. They clung on her every word, every move. Also, I was petrified of her. I feared for my life. There was no way to fight back-she was too powerful and no one would have believed me(trying to fight her lies), nor, would they have given a shit. I was a no-one. I still am pretty much a no one in comparison with her, but I am much more fearless now. I suppose, in a way, it’s similar to how years later when people are grown up, and if they were abused, and had to remain silent, they finally confront a pedophile priest or abusive person that is now old, and elderly, and broken. To finally confront a person who scared the living shit out of them, as well as abused them either emotionally, or physically. It IS a relief. It really is. I don’t look at her with pity really, (she is more beautiful than ever, and seems happy, etc)….But I feel like I can finally speak out because I am not alone any longer. People don’t believe her. I am not alone.

I just feel kind of sick whenever I see her in the press, or whatever. It’s just so gross…Doing nothing. Just being rich and “better now”…..Has she ever done one thing that was out of the kindness of her heart, or charity, or anything other than promote herself? I know she’s all for “chicks should rock”…..yea, well no shit….But dam, she could have done SO MUCH MORE with the power she had. She did nothing in any kind of humanitarian gesture. I am not saying that she is not talented, a great actress, funny, crazy smart, well versed, profound, and all the rest. Of course she is. But, she (way inside) is very, very sick. And it borders on an evil sickness that people with real feelings and an ability to feel BAD or sad have, and she, does not. She just runs on total mind, and power. But NOT heart or soul. You can hear nothing in her voice. Not even her scream. It is void.

I have a certain rage, and it’s now coming out. I’m not jealous at all of her though (ironically), omg, how could you be? she is SO loathed and hated. The karmic kick back with that woman is insane. I don’t feel at all sorry for her either. (How the fuck could you)? ….Back in the day, She had ALL the power. But she is not taken seriously now. People for the most part, know more about her. Even the young women and men who were her biggest fans. Many of them turned against her once they knew more about her. They grew up. She had a field day back when the internet was new and all the lies she would spread about me. She told people I killed her cat. She told stories upon stories on the internet (that old AOL Hole folder)…. (DOCUMENTED and downloaded to prove she did), countless grotesque lies that I could NOT stop her from spreading. I was not only was in fear of her, I was in fear of her fans. Countless times I would come out from a club, or the subway, and my car windshield would have been written on with lipstick “you suck”, or “fuck you” signed “Courtney. People would come up to me and say the most rotten things to me. Not even knowing me- All Courtney fans that were brainwashed by her or something……Then, the obvious forged fax, and the shit she said about me in Rolling Stone-The one where she was on the cover! Then, every time I looked on mtv etc….there she was. With people fawning and falling all over her. “The Princess” rock star. And all the while I KNEW how horrible she was as a person. She violated my integrity, she violated my life, she even left death threats to ME as well as my elderly parents on their answering machine causing a lot of stress and weird fear within our family. It was INSANE. Like having a gangster threaten you. Whitey Bulger or something. It was partially amusing because it was so nuts, but in the back of our minds, we were questioning “is she for real”. Will someone light our home on fire? etc etc…. In any case, made it hard to sleep at night. My parents were old and lovely, and didn’t deserve that. I felt like I had brought that pox with me -again, but not having ever done a single thing to deserve that…. I lived with my parents at the time….awful for them to have had to deal with that.

If she was just some random chick that was going around on her facebook or my space or something saying shit about another chick- that is one thing. But she was one of the biggest pop stars in the world at the time, and everyone loved her-the “grieving widow”, etc etc….so, the dynamic and the impact is a lot greater regarding the emotional toll , the incredible sadness, fear, and feeling of absolute powerlessness she made me feel. Knowing millions of people were reading her interviews, etc, and all the rotten things she was saying about me. All untrue. I was just a small town nobody busker who loved songs and friends, etc….and suddenly (very publicly), I was a fictional character she made up. She made me feel like a frightened child after she emotionally abused and violated me. She threatened me, she punched me, kicked me, chased me, and nearly had me killed that night on Sunset. And then, it continued until Kathleen and others got the guts to press charges when similar assaults happened to them. I should have pressed charges long ago. But I was too scared and didn’t want to bring any attention to it. I just wanted her to leave me alone. So, I carried this around with me for a very long time. I want to let it go, and I am letting it go now. I am letting it go publicly, just like she tore me apart with her lies publicly. I don’t know what could make a person be so cruel. I don’t understand that kind of person or that kind of thinking. Anyway, thank you for listening. And again, some of you have asked me about the Cobain “case” etc, and what I think about it, etc…..I don’t really have much to say about it. It’s not my place to say anything. I have no idea what happened. All I know is that they were two very sick people at the time. Sometimes I wonder if her particular kind of sickness was just plain dark sociopaths narcissism. Or, if there is such a thing as evil. And him, just a guy that loved music and wanted a family, and loved his daughter, but maybe couldn’t take it any more.
Anyway, thank you for reading (whoever you are), and I’m sorry this is long and self indulgent or whatever. It’s weird because I’m talking about people that you guys actually are aware of. I’m not saying things like….”in the past my ex Bob was a real prick”. I am talking about two of the most known people in the world….This was also very difficult for me because it wasn’t something easily forgettable when it’s either her face or his face on mtv or a t shirt or whatever, or when your daughter is a 17 year old Nirvana fan with curious questions that any kid would have……..It takes a lot to let it go. Thank you all for giving me some place to put these feelings that have haunted me from the past. I’ve needed some kind of validation for so long. Not just a “Oh, not this fucking story again” . I know how lucky I am and how lucky I have been to have even had the chance to be friends with some of the wonderful people I’ve been friends with.

It’s also tough, and weird, and weird in that shortly after Kurt died, I met Elliott. He never judged me, and he provided a sense relief and understanding to me, and he understood. He made the loss a lot easier to take, and move on from. (Sorry, I know I am drifting here, but on top of the “Justice for K” and “Justice for E”….I get a LOT of messages from fans and people who are looking to me to provide answers, or something, and it mixes in, and is so fucking weird and sad to me)……anyway, then, he too, Elliott was gone. This was (as you can imagine), very, very hard. It was beyond comprehension. But he gave me a home for my feelings, and we shared a lot of them. He was like a little brother to me. .(you know what I mean you guys?) ugh. It’s been a lot. And hard to “just forget”, when the music is just as relevant today, and in my ears and heart as it was then. And it’s not even like I seek it out. I just hear it. Under my floor boards, my daughter’s friends . It was some of the best music ever made, and I was kind of in the middle of all of that stuff. More so of course with Elliott, but jesus, it’s been weird and hard. ….It’s hard to move away from it. Songs are different than pictures. They are invisible like ghosts, and always there. Impossible to “move on” you just have to “move different”. ugh….

And I know I am lucky with having the beautiful friends I have and of course, my daughter. I don’t want to keep reliving this. It was an incredibly difficult time in my life. When he died, we were all shattered. It was a hard time for us all.
Anyway, to finally wrap this up, I just want Frances to know that her father was one of the most amazing people I’ve ever met.

I hope we all find peace (anyone who cares about this case, or Kurt, or even Courtney), and retain a certain amount of empathy , respect, and understanding towards one another. I would say forgiveness, but that one is too hard when it comes to her….

It’s also important that no matter what our differences are on any of the matters that relate to this, that we all can try our best to be real, to be tolerant, and kind. No one should ever live in the shadow of fear or have their voice or their story squelched or be made to feel outcast, or worse, like a liar. (Whatever situation it might be)…. It’s taken 22 years for me to get up the guts to just tell it all like this. I’m not trying to draw attention to myself (I don’t care about that….I love songs, you know that)…..I am simply bringing this massive chapter to a final close and letting this ghost free-for me, and for the others who were victimized and traumatized by this person who never deserved, nor should have had that kind of power. She did not deserve a person as kind and sensitive as he was, or the love that he most likely desperately tried to give her, in the hopes of getting love back. …All he wanted was a family, and a place to belong. ..Isn’t that what we all want? ..Thank you, and again, sorry this is so long. Ugh. I know, I know. xo

  • Ishmael

    can someone explain to me what the hell this whole thing is about anyway?

    • Corndog

      Well, i can’t be certain, what with such a mixed message and all, but i’m starting to get the impression that this chick isn’t overly fond of Courtney Love for some reason. I think she used to mow her lawn and never got paid her overtime, and she’s just not having that any more dammit!. Or something.

      Also, don’t you think that ‘black tornado’s thrust’ sounds like a 70’s porn move?

      • nomad

        It does sound like a 70’s porn movie

        • Corndog

          Well i meant move, like a position or something, but in this context movie works perfectly too:)

        • valhalla

          whitey bulger available on vivid entertainment

      • valhalla

        well, fuck, that’s fucking funny…too bad she didn’t bring up the bj in the van story

      • Tom Grant, P.I.

        And really, no sane person should be fond of a woman who clearly murdered her husband and then fooled the entire world about his death.

        But not this guy. Oh no! I know the truth. My minions know the truth. And it’s only a matter of time before pigs fly, ice catches fire and the all-you-can-eat pasta bowl special at Olive Garden rears its ugly head and the rest of the world WAKES UP and sees the truth, goddamit!

        She’s a murderer! That murderous bitch! I’ll prove it one day, Courtney! If I have to die face-down in my endless pasta bowl to do it, so help me christ…

    • j4mie

      Courtney love harassed several women who kurt cobain dated or was even friends with. mary lou lord happened to be one of them. Courtney love called mary a stalker and said several lies about her simply cause Courtney was jealous, crazy, controlling, and abusive.

      • Tom Grant, P.I.

        She murdered her husband, too! Then had time to fly out and meet her band Hole for a show across the country a few hours later! She’s a slippery snake, that Courtney…

    • valhalla

      Kurt, Courtney, conspiracy, but not really, LOVE, HATE, cunts, fucking cunts, fucking terribly dressed cunts, crushing said cunts, letting the Tom games begin, but not really, being human, having a heart, lyrics to 13 (not the Megadeath song, either, don’t want to confuse you), batshit crazy lying cunts with MILLIONS, fictional characters, invisible ghosts, letting go, moving on, but not really, and, finally, public redemption.

  • kaydaver

    Why a venomous public rant 22 years after his death? If this isn’t self-serving and courting the media, I don’t know what is.

    • j4mie

      it is self-serving. she said exactly that. she’s freeing herself from some traumatic crap brought onto her by a horrible person. and courting the media!? ha! that’s what Courtney love is all about. at least Mary Lou Lord can live a little more free. she has guts and I applaud her.

    • Tom Grant, P.I.

      I agree! It’s not quite as bad as dedicating 22 years of your life to a fake murder case in the hopes of making a name for yourself at the expense of a dead rock star, but I can see where this would rankle some hides, for sure…

      • kaydaver

        And hold up here….she mourns the death of Elliott…aka Elliott Smith. Didn’t he kill himself also?

  • Billy

    way tl;dr

    • valhalla

      no shit…some of this is almost verbatim of a story of hers I read last night from years ago…

    • Tom Grant, P.I.

      Don’t believe this crazy person! She’s clearing making up things she wants people to believe are facts, can’t prove any of this, and will probably gain a devoted following of losers who believe her every word and whim.

      I don’t know how some people do it, I really don’t.

  • nomad

    Definitely tl;dr. CL has spent her adult life dabbling in music and acting, but her true life’s work is engaging in as many conflicts with people as possible.

    • Tom Grant, P.I.

      Like killing her husband. Or hiring someone to kill her husband. Or hiring a P.I. who couldn’t find her husband’s corpse 15 feet in front of him and made up a killer story about someone killing her husband.

      Boy, people will believe anything, let me tell ya…

      • cb

        do you realize this is a law suit using a name of an actual person in this way to discredit Tom Grant?

  • Tom Grant, P.I.

    You guys are a bunch of assholes.

    SO WHAT if I can’t prove shit? So what if some guy with a name that plays on my favorite all-time musician and has a pink bear for an avatar shoots every bogus theory I have about Cobain’s suicide out of the sky? Does that make me less of a man just because only a minute speck of the general population buys into my bullshit? Well? Does it?

    You’re in DEEP trouble, Brett. I’ve had enough of you and your regulars seeing through my transparent crap and wiping your collective asses with my life’s work. This means war, Brett! This means war, Felonious!

    To all of you whackos out there who have supported my crusade to free-load off the Cobain name for the past 22 odd years, I extend a sincere gesture of gratitude on my behalf. Just don’t ask me to share my morning box of donuts with you.

    And remember: if YOU are in need of a P.I. to find your loved one, or just want to hear a crazy story about how I couldn’t find your loved one and assumed you offed him or her yourself, call me for a free consultation. My office in the back of the Vietnamese nail salon is open 24 hours. Trust me, I could use the business.

    I’ll be watching you, Alt Nation haters! You DON’T want me to come back here with the truth, which I’ve yet to find!

    • cb

      I think this is a fake and bogus profile. And this is public defamation of character. Tom Grant should be contacted regarding this.

  • Hwang Sunghyeop

    Wow Now I see Tom Grant here.
    recently I really think Kurt’s death goes to more darker way.
    I don’t think he was dark person. he is normal person like AN’s people.
    maybe at that time, durt covered it quickly. who knows? because his death was at 5th April, but somebody find him at 8th April. that 3 days are missing. so who knows?

  • Felonious Punk

    I re-watched Soaked In Bleach again last night, just to keep up on my research.

    Seriously, what a joke of a fucking “movie”. It’s like a high school student made a bad episode of CSI or something. The acting and the dialogue is laughably awful, and there are so many inaccuracies in Tom Grant’s investigation, it’s embarrassing. I love how the guy has “tapes and tapes” of recorded phone conversations, and yet all this damning evidence he claims to have on tape is never used. The recorded conversations are just meaningless bits of dialogue that completely fail to lend credence to whatever he’s trying to prove.

    Also ironic is how he claims that Courtney and Dylan Carlson are these massive junkie fuckups throwing a ton of shade, and yet he leans on them continuously for all of his info, leads, etc. ROFL, good job there, Tom.

    Dude claims the crime scene was jacked up and yet never once stepped foot on the actual crime scene. He claims Courtney promised to furnish him an autopsy report and never did, and yet he continues to have a working relationship with her for up to a year after. If she was *such* an unreliable source, then why was she your BEST source of info?

    Tom Grant is an absolute joke of an investigator (for lack of a better word). He blames everybody BUT himself for his complete fuckup of this investigation. You shouldn’t need to rely on a junkie to tell you to check the sizeable two-car garage and the nice big green house directly above it when its ten feet in front of you, dumbass. If you were even a halfway-decent P.I., you’d have checked it as soon as you were done casing the house.

    Bleh. I could go on forever. This whole conspiracy is an absolute joke. I will gladly shut down any argument that Cobain was murdered, because it’s 100% complete bullshit on every level.

    • cb

      I hope they reopen the case, Kurt was clearly murdered. All evidence points to that in Soaked In Bleach and the book Love and Death and the other movie Kurt and Courtney. She is a siciopath, energy vampire, leech in the worst way, she is a Satanist, look at all her pics with horns up hand symbol. Where as Kurt is a man of God you hear traces of that in his music and in pics with Jesus billboard in the back, holding a cross in the van, standing in front of a cross in Europe. He collected Jesus artifacts, crosses, as Courtney said in a 1995 Rolling Stone article “Kurt had Jesus-envy”. Google it all. It is all there. Kurt was murdered from being of God and she is of the dark, evil, uses people and got tons of plastic surgery with the blood money. Looming divorce is a fact, Kurt began the process with his lawyer Rosemary and enough proof right there that Courtney was highly motivated .In another recording you can Google her saying she “hates all men”. She is a black widow, she wore the pants and her goal was to emasculate Kurt. She is any man’s worst nightmare. That is her, expose her to the Light like the vampire that she is. This is truth and your post is the cover up, smoke and mirrors LIE that she has been feeding the media for years. JUSTICE FOR KURT.

      • Pink Taco

        you are killing me with your comedy. There is no such thing as God, or Satan, or Satanism. They are stories like Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny and the tooth fairy. When you die, you rot in the dirt and become food for the maggots. LOL.

        • cb

          Satanist become worm food, out of choice. free will. the rest of us have infinity, God and the Light. but they got you using the right wording in your brainwash club. applause.

      • Felonious Punk

        Comedic gold right here. It’s the Yin to Elizabeth whateverhernamewas’ Yang.

        Oh yea, bro…SO MUCH evidence in Soaked In Bleach. That’s why absolutely nothing in it was substantiated, right? That’s why that celebrity lawyer Tom Grant *claimed* he had phone recorded went on record saying she NEVER had those conversations with him, right? That’s why Tom Grant swears up and down that Courtney and Dylan were a bunch of lying junkie burnouts in that glorified Youtube documentary SIB, and yet *consistently* gets ALL of his leads and info from them, right?

        Not to mention Tom Grant was at the crime scene and had a firsthand account of how it looked, right? He’d certainly be an expert on the matter, basing all of his *evidence* off of the work the Seattle Police Dept. did. The work he references so heavily, while at the same time claims is a sham.

        LoL you’re an absolute whackjob, dude. Even Tom Grant didn’t slum to a satanic cult angle like so many of you tards do..

        • cb

          you are Courtney Love.

          • Felonious Punk

            TL;DR

            *yawn*

  • ITURBIDE

    You’re right. that was long and boring.

    But you’re still hot.

  • Pink Taco

    I have been to Kurt Cobain’s house on Lake Washington in Seattle where he ended his life. Not where someone murdered him, but where he ended his life. I’ve seen the garage. The house is not on acres of land. It takes seconds to walk the drive way to the garage. You have to be a total stooge to not go look. In all honesty, really.

    • cb

      what does where the garage is located have to do with him taking his own life as opposed to being murdered? that was where the hired “friend” whom was there (and we know who all was there that week) dragged Kurt to finish him off with a gun shot after getting him high in the house on two doses of heroin, one he administered himself thinking he was getting high with “friends” and the second on given to him from said “friend” after he was high on his own dose. The “friend” then shot Kurt with the filled syringe that the “friend” was pretending was going to get high with him, took a very incapacitated Kurt out to the garage/greenhouse a few steps from the house and shit him. He was MURDERED in that manner. He did not take his own life,

      • Pink Taco

        Riiiiiiiiiiiiight!

        walking up the drive way to the house – cause that’s the only way in – literally the garage is 100/150 feet up so an investigator who doesn’t walk 150 feet is a total dumb ass.

        You can’t drag him across the driveway without scuff marks forming on the under sides of the shoes – and then you have to fireman carry him up the steps into that green house above the garage cause it was – a second floor. Nobody said anything about scuff marks on his shoes.

        Everyone who saw Kurt for days before his death saw he was using a lot of heroin and shooting up a lot and was high all the time.

        The guy had a great tolerance for heroin. That textbook shit is not literal, it’s a figurative guide.

        Kurt KILLED himself.
        Why was there no evidence of murder??? You have NO evidence.

        • cb

          lol. lots of Courtney satanist supporters on here. whereas when you go to other websites the comments are anti-Courtney and the tide is indeed turning. Karma is a bitch. There is PLENTY of evidence that shows she is guilty. Kurt was psychically attacked during his whole relationship with her. Just because things of occult knowledge are of the “unknown” realm to the general public does not mean it isn’t real. Just like, just because you cannot see God does not mean God isn’t real. Kurt was the picture of health 6 months before his murder in MTV Unplugged, kicking heroin. And then Courtney went ballistic, drilled her will into his mind and drove him via psychic attack to do heroin. This is the reality of this world, that people do not see or believe. She set him up like cat and mouse, like a socio path does, every step of the way planned and plotted. Kurt Cobain did not commit suicide, he had a lot to live for. His daughter Frances for one and a future life that did not include Courtney. And he was murdered, period. end of story. but we know the motivating factor as to why some people would defend her. you are scum bags like her and are evil.

          • Pink Taco

            it’s true! courtney love cut me in and gave me some of that sweet Kurt Nirvana money $$$ !!!

            Ok genius, I am going to ask you to answer some questions and enlighten me.

            I’m going to pull these already made questions from a poster on this board, from the book of Felonious:

            1) If she’s guilty, why haven’t the police arrested her and all of her “murder co-conspirators”

            Thousands — if not hundreds of thousands — of people are arrested for murder and manslaughter and attempted murder in the U.S. every year, and you’re telling me Courtney was able to fool everyone and avoid arrest for more than 20 years now?

            2) : if she wanted him dead so bad, why did she call the police two months prior to his suicide when he was locking himself in the bathroom with a handgun, threatening to shoot himself?

            3) Why did she call the paramedics and save his life in Rome when he OD’d on champagne and pills A MONTH before his suicide. Seems to me if she wanted him dead, she’d have just let him kill himself when she was right there witnessing him do it. Then she could have easily claimed it was a suicide and made off with his inheritance that way.

            4) But you’re telling me she went through the elaborate trouble of busting him out of rehab, getting him to shoot a ton of dope, forging a suicide note and having some fat fuck punk rock nobody manipulate a shotgun so it looked like Kurt pulled the trigger himself?

            5) Then hired the ONE private eye in the Northwest that claims he can prove Kurt was murdered, and has yet failed to do so in almost 22 years and counting?

            I will be waiting for your answers. Which you owe me since you called me an evil scumbag. I won’t wait too long though cause Courtney Love is coming over to blow me.

          • Felonious Punk

            Don’t hold your breath waiting for him to offer up any rebuttal to these points, PT; save your breath so you can hold it while Courtney is working her “psychic magic” on you, lol

            Because the last time I pitched these questions to a Cobain Conspirator, they vanished like a fart in the wind, never to return.

            I’m actually hoping ‘ol cb — short for Courtney’s Bitch — DOES try to answer them though. That shit he posted above had me almost pissing myself with laughter. Funny stuff..

          • Pink Taco

            I used your points because you were so spot-on in your thinking and had the logical progressions down – scientifically. I mean, I am hoping there is a response, joyously the idiot called me an evil scumbag!

            I can’t get over the people who think he was whacked. Kurt Cobain was a heroin junkie. He made up a stomach ailment so he could get away with being a heroin junkie. He married a woman and they did heroin together. His best friend Dylan Carlson was a heroin junkie. He did heroin with Layne Staley who was also a *wait for it* heroin junkie. Is it any wonder Kurt could do a lot of heroin??? So yeah he HAD TO BE murdered LOL!!!!

          • Felonious Punk

            I thought the stomach ailment was a real thing? I know he said on MTV that he’d “found a medicine that worked” for it, and meant heroin, and then Tom Grant and his crew of assclowns completely misconstrued it as Kurt saying he’d found a legitimate medication and therefore it was implausible for him to be depressed because of it, lol

          • Pink Taco

            my source is buzz from the Melvins I decided that he was very credible he did an interview for montage of heck “Kurt told me there was absolutely nothing wrong with his stomach he made it up for sympathy and so he could use it as an excuse to stay loaded of course he was vomiting that’s what people on heroin do they vomit it’s called vomiting with a smile on your face “

          • Felonious Punk

            Fair enough. Kurt always was a bullshitter, and a hilariously good one at that. I’ll take King Buzzo’s word over Tom Grant’s P.I. work anyday.

            Buzz could stick his head up his own ass, walk in a circle three times, and still find a body in a greenhouse years before Tom Grant could..

          • Pink Taco

            I’ve read a fair amount of Buzz interviews (Melvins fan) and he always no-bullshit. never bought into Courtney and her tons of bullshit and he was never into the fame. Someone asked him if he was jealous of Kurt Cobain:

            “People have said to me, which I think is crazy, ‘Do you ever get jealous that Kurt Cobain got fame and money?’,” says Osborne. “And I go, ‘Kurt Cobain is f—ing dead. Are you kidding? What are you talking about? You think I would trade places with a dead guy?’ Yeah, I wish I had been more famous, and had more money, and was dead. No, no, no. I win. I win. He doesn’t win. He loses. He’s a major loser. His f—ing loss. He left a baby at the mercy of that woman [Courtney Love]. And, it couldn’t be worse. There’s nothing good about any of that.”

            So I think he is an honest source. LOL.

          • cb

            she cannot do anything psychic anymore. Plus, I have nothing to fear. I like telling the truth. It is like pouring water on a witch and watching her melt. Or like caging flying monkies. you shine the Light and the cock roaches scatter. lol.

          • Felonious Punk

            I guess we should feel honored to be the last holdouts on the Internet when this mass wake-up of biblical proportions occurs then…

          • cb

            does anyone else notice how these characters on here act about Kurt’s murder? it’s like they have their own little pow wow nitch in a corner of the interwebs where they can play this bullshit game. I would say it is pathetic and hilarious but murder is a serious issue. That said, I am not the only one that notices this webpages activities and support of a murder. others see. we all see. and the tide is turning. more posts and comments elsewhere on the internet show that there is a growing dislike for Courtney and folks like you,

          • valhalla

            Please, cb, for your own sanity, stop this nonsense. Nobody here has said one word in support of Courtney. Stating facts supporting Kurt’s suicide is not the same thing as supporting Courtney.

          • cb

            Kurt was not threatening to shoot himself when locked in that room. he was wanting to get away from the over bearing Courtney satanic witch troll that was always in his head. it is even in the records from that incident with the police that he was not suicidal and Courtney said he was not. In Rome she let Kurt stew there in coma while she applied make up and while she debated on what to do. The Rome incident is part of the set up, to make it look like he was suicidal. he was drunk and then she slipped the pills in his drink. he was so out of it he did not remember what he did, if he took the pills or not. but in actuality, she waited for him to get drunk and then slipped the pills in his drink. that way he would question what exactly he did. then she let him lay there in coma before getting the paramedics involved. this was in preparation to murder him a month later. a socio path plans things out well in advance. that is how they think. she planned every detail from him going to rehab to him going back to the house in Washington and being set up.

          • Felonious Punk

            Oh yea, dude; WE’RE clearly the crazy ones here. You totally got us.

            “Kurt was the picture of health 6 months before his murder in MTV Unplugged, doing much less heroin, getting spiritually well and ready to move on.”

            LMFAO are you shitting me?! The picture of health?? He was in the midst of a three-day withdrawal and couldn’t even look at the camera during that performance. He had the set-up crew design the fucking stage like a funeral parlor.

            You are a fucking moron of epic proportions. Let’s move along and see what other hilarity you’ve offered up…

            “And then Courtney went ballistic, drilled her will into his mind and drove him via psychic attack to do heroin.”

            This was some spit-my-coffee-back-in-the-mug type lolz right here. Incredible how you all claim Courtney was this dumb, druggie scag addict and yet she had “psychic powers” that manipulated Kurt into doing heroin. THAT’S a fucking new one.

            Boy, wait until Corndog reads this shit. Nice knowing ya, cb…

            “you are scum bags like her and are evil, most of you that post on here. it’s like regular bar flies at a bar in here. the same characters posting their one sided BS on here in support of a murderer.”

            Loooooooooolz for days, bro. Especially when NOBODY on this site is supporting Courtney in any way here; we’re just saying Kurt wasn’t murdered.

            Because he wasn’t. He committed suicide. And THAT’S the end of the story. You know why?

            Because unlike you loony toons who show up here spouting this conspiracy BS, we actually provide FACTS to the contrary. We PROVE it wasn’t a murder, every time. All you and your fellow conspirators offer up is “there’s plenty of evidence, the truth is right there, you’re all a bunch of dumb Courtney supports, waaaaah”.

            We routinely challenge you nutjobs to offer PROOF and EVIDENCE to your claims, and every time — EVERY TIME — there is none. Zilch. Zero. You blow smoke for a day or two and then disappear forever off the AN comments section, running with your tail between your legs.

            Because when it comes time to put up or shut up, your whole foundation folds like a busted poker hand. Smoke and mirrors every time, lol

          • cb

            no. I know the truth and you all know it too and part of your satanic game is assisting Courtney with spreading a lie and false point of view. that is what this page is for. Courtney has garnered support from various websites and tabloids over the years to continue spreading the lie.

          • Felonious Punk

            Wait, I thought you said *I was Courtney*

            Goddammit, tricked again…

          • valhalla

            ROTFL….SNL could not come up with better comedy than this stuff…

          • Felonious Punk

            The Cobain Crackpot Conspiracy is the funniest stuff going on AN!

          • valhalla

            It is hysterically funny…btw…I “psychically” f***ked Kurt during my last, ahem, self service session…he was a handsome man, after all!!!!

          • valhalla

            Oh my, cb. Please stop with the name calling. There is a youtube video from 2011 w Dave, Krist, and Butch posted by deliousvideo. At about the 14: 07 mark, the interviewer asks if they can pinpoint what destroyed Nirvana, what destroyed Kurt. Krist says, to the effect, that people survive humiliations like the WW II concentration campscamps, and they had the will to survive.

          • cb

            you all sure do like to hang out on here like no life bar flies and put down Kurt Cobain and support Courtney. it is clear what you people are. you support what was done to him which was spiritual rape and murder. this page sucks and so do all of you clearly bored and directionless losers.

          • valhalla

            You’re here, too, so….

          • cb

            WTF does a comment about concentration camp refugees surviving and the will to live have anything to do with Kurt being murdered and that some how in essence is Krist verifying that the murder deal is just conspiracy????That makes zero sense. Krist knows the truth. Back then he and Shelly did not like Courtney at all, wanted Kurt to get away from her and felt bad vibes from Courtney. So did Dave. Let it be known none of his close peers liked her what so ever. If Dave and Krist deal with her at all 22 years later in this day it is a fake, public PR front because they know she is a snake. but they have to let it go to heal and not harbor toxic hate. that is why, not because they think she is innocent and that they are remotely even cool with her. they effing know.

          • valhalla

            Yes to the first sentence.

          • cb

            uhm. NO. that is not what that means. you are grabbing for straws with that. Krist knows the truth and he knows Kurt did not commit suicide.

          • valhalla

            Still here, I see. Now who’s the “no life bar fly,” huh?

          • valhalla

            Okay, cb, let’s play nice, shall we? First, did you watch the youtube video? The context is important. You can also see Krist’s body language. He paused and contemplated before answering. Second, if Krist “knows the truth” that Kurt did not commit suicide ergo his death was a premeditated homicide, as you have made it clear is the truth as you see it, why didn’t Krist go to the police?

          • valhalla

            First of all, you need to reconsider that whole Vulcan mind meld nonsense. We all know only Spock can do that, and Courtney is no Spock.

            By the way, why are you waging this battle all by your lonesome? Where’s the rest of the Justice League?

            Do you even understand the implications of saying, “Krist knows the truth…?” It’s one thing to accuse what’s-her-name of conspiracy to commit murder. That chick is so batshit crazy, she’s probably flattered. It’s a whole ‘nother thing to even suggest that Krist would knowingly, willingly, and deliberately withhold information from the police about the death of one of his best friends. You know good and well what Krist meant about the concentration camp survivors and the will to live because you said it in your first reply to me. Besides, wouldn’t Krist be thrilled to put batshit behind bars? Maybe that’s a heart-shaped box that is best left unopened. I do not want to be associated with the collateral damage of you somehow trying to implicate as many other decent people like Krist as possible in your Conspiracy Club. Can you please consider either deleting that or rewording it?

            I gotta say I’m a little disappointed, cb. Some of your stuff was downright LOL funny. That last little bit was downright despicable, tho.

            And can you please try not to say “Courtney” three times in your posts? Afraid that might conjure batshit onto this page. Like Beetlejuice.

      • Felonious Punk

        ROFL

        Because you saw this nice, organized crime scene, right? Because the fact that a guy with a $500 a day heroin habit couldn’t shoot up three times as much as a first-time user and then take the whole 90 seconds it would take to throw the paraphenalia back in its box, finish the last four lines of his suicide note and then blow his brains in while numb and high as a kite, right? Like a hardcore heroin addict the likes of Kurt Cobain is going to go out leaving *any* of his heroin there for the next guy.

        Even these patriarchs you worship who made C&K and SIB admit it would have been possible for Kurt to shoot himself with the rifle he used to kill himself. And he did.

        Hilarious how these “friends” you claim killed Kurt made all these bungling errors at the crime scene, and yet you and a few other lunatics are the only ones who can see it. I mean, because you were there, right? It’s not like you had some private investigator who couldn’t even bother to check the structure he parked right in fucking front of tell you “this is what happened and it’s the truth”, right?

        Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight

        • cb

          read the book Love and Death.

          • Felonious Punk

            Already read it. Tom Grant couldn’t validate anything in that one either.

          • cb

            it validates a lot. including Courtney’s past and character. like for instance how she was with her first husband. she tried to set him on fire in bed and she also threatened her first husband with having his ass kicked by someone she would hire to do it. anyone with half an intellect can read ALL that is available and look at how she has been over the years and see that she is very much guilty. just because SPD did a half assed and sloppy work, and the case is closed DOES NOT mean she is innocent. it just means she got away with it and that some other evidence has not surfaced. it is funny how dedicated you are to presenting your point of view. we can argue about this all day long just like people argue if there is God. anyways, more and more people are leaning towards that the proof and ALL the dots connect that this is who she is and her character is that of a socio path lunatic.

  • cb

    side note: doesn’t Courtney Love look manly in the pic up there? that is because she is intersex. it’s true. but she has had tons of surgery to look more like a woman. she looks manly in Montage of Heck. she has made many public comments over the years alluding and hinting to being intersex. like the testosterone comments, saying she felt neutered and dull on drugs in another comment, another comment saying rock music has a lot of testosterone and she is the one in the dress, she also said she has a cock in another comment. it’s all there if you Google it. I am pretty sure, like Lady Gaga, she is intersex. Kurt even made a comment about her being a hermaphrodite. He was mind controlled and did not want to be in that type of relationship. she forced him with mind control,. she wanted to wear the pants and emasculate Kurt. She acted like a musician dude competing with Kurt. She went around telling people Hole is a better band than Nirvana. Like Nancy Spungen w/ Sid, Courtney caused Kurt’s downward spiral and I think both Courtney and Nancy are energy vampire Satanists. These type of women latch onto the rising stars of good souls and steal life force and are toxic.

    • valhalla

      This thesis-long rant is a SIDE NOTE?!