CORE 20TH ANNIVERSARY: RETROSPECTIVE ON STONE TEMPLE PILOTS’ EARLY DAYS

Photo of Stone Temple Pilots in 1992.  Core was released 20 years ago today.  This article is a GrungeReport.net exclusive and features a new interview (read the full interview here) I conducted with former Stone Temple Pilots manager Steve Stewart.

Stone Temple Pilots’ beginnings can be traced back to the mid 1980’s.  Scott Richard Kline was born on October 27, 1967 in Santa Cruz, California to parents Kent and Sharon Kline.  His parents divorced when he was two, and his mother quickly remarried Dave Weiland, who adopted Scott and gave him his surname Weiland.  Scott mainly grew up in Chagrin Falls, Ohio and spent his summers in California with his biological father, the back and forth took its toll on him emotionally. After Scott’s stepbrother Craig was hit by a car and died in California, his biological father became detached from him, and the summer visits became less frequent.  Weiland and his family later moved to Huntington Beach, California when he was 14 years old and he began attending Edison High School.  During his time at Edison he initially played a lot of sports but he was a hard partier and never quite felt like he fit in, his partying eventually led his parents to put him in a psych ward for three months and have him carted off from school.

During Weiland’s formative years his musical influences were very diverse, he was a chameleon from the start.  His first musical influence as a child was country music, listening to Hank Williams with his father in his car.  He often credits his father for teaching him how to sing.  In middle school John Lennon and David Bowie became two of his major influences along with R.E.M.  At Edison High Scott met Corey Hickok while playing football, who turned him on to records by The Jam, Echo and the Bunnymen, Stiff Little Fingers, and The Buzzcocks.  Scott also began to attend local Orange County punk rock shows seeing bands like Social Distortion during his teen years.  Corey played guitar, and he and Scott quickly formed a postpunk band called Awkward Positions. The two eventually formed Soi-Distant.  Soi-Distant featured Weiland, Corey Hickok on guitar, bassist Dave Stokes (Scott Tubbs at one point), keyboardist Britt Willits, and drummer Lonnie Tubbs.  Weiland stated in a July 1987 interview with Gig Magazine, “A lot of bands are writing about social problems, we write on a more personal level.”  Weiland and the band’s look and sound were influenced by Duran Duran’s first album, The Cure, and U2 with a punk edge.  Soi-Distant played all around Orange County in Huntington Beach, at clubs in Newport Beach like Déjà Vu, and at a frat house at UCI in Irvine.  After high school Weiland attended Orange Coast College but quit to focus on his music career, he had a high GPA but later stated they didn’t teach classes on being a successful recording artist.

While Scott Weiland was working on his musical chops, bassist Robert DeLeo was in Point Pleasant, New Jersey playing with his older brother Dean, five years his senior.  Dean’s band played in bars, but Robert was so talented the band let him in and snuck him in to play shows.  One day Robert decided to pick up and leave New Jersey and move to California.  He lived out of his car initially in the Long Beach area with no music gear, but he eventually got an apartment and a home eight track studio after inheriting some money.  DeLeo, whose biggest influences were James Jamerson and Led Zeppelin, met Scott Weiland at one of Soi-Distant’s gigs in Orange County, joining the band to perform a song.  Weiland was blown away by DeLeo’s talent, but it took awhile before he could finally get him to form a band with him.  Sometime in late 1987/early 1988, Soi-Distant dissolved and morphed into Swing, the first incarnation of Stone Temple Pilots.  Guitarist Corey Hickok and keyboardist Britt Willits initially remained from Soi-Distant, and the lineup was rounded out by ¾ of the STP lineup we have come to know: Scott Weiland, Robert DeLeo, and drummer Eric Kretz.  There was also a drummer named David Allin, a high school friend of Scott’s, who played drums before Kretz. The details surrounding his time in the band are vague. Scott and Robert had seen Kretz performing with another band, and were impressed and immediately asked him to join their band.  Kretz was from San Jose, California and attended Willow Glen High School. DeLeo eventually decided that they didn’t need a keyboardist, and they became a four piece.  The band were based in Hollywood but played in Los Angeles and Orange County.  Swing had more of a funk and hard edged alternative rock sound than Soi-Distant, one of their early songs was called “Drop the Funk.”  Dean, Robert’s older brother, moved to San Diego in the mid 80’s and became a successful businessman.  He had given up the guitar, but helped out the early version of STP get some gigs down in San Diego.

By 1990, Robert told Scott that Corey Hikock had to go and they needed a new guitarist.  While Scott was hesitant to fire his close friend from the band, deep down he knew they needed a different guitarist.  Corey cried when told the news, but he understood why they had to do it.  The guys convinced Robert’s brother Dean to join them, and in their first ever jam session with him they wrote the 8-minute epic “Where The River Goes,” which later ended up on the band’s debut album Core.  By 1990, the band’s name was Mighty Joe Young.  They began recording demos in mid 1990, with the initial demos leaning more on the band’s funk influences from their previous incarnation as Swing.  Steve Stewart, who managed STP from their early days up until 2000, remembers, “I shopped that tape for the first record deal. It’s true, the band’s sound was much more ‘LA funk’ than what came out on Core in 1992. Except for Where The River Goes. The demo version of that track (which is on the cassette) is one of my favorite STP songs. Thick and tasty – I think it sounds better than the album version on Core, but it’s pretty much unchanged.”  By late 1990/early 1991 STP began to form the signature sound they would later have on Core, recording demos of Wicked Garden, Naked Sunday, Piece of Pie, and Only Dying.  Crackerman was also written during this time period.  The full demo tape featured these songs along with some of STP’s funkier numbers like “Dirty Dog” and “Scary Area.”  During the band’s early days, they relentlessly played the club scene, Steve Stewart says they played “pretty much every club in southern California. Raji’s, The Shamrock, the Golden Bear – all the Hollywood and O.C. venues.” They also opened for bands like the Rollins Band, Ice T, and Soul Asylum.

The band had jobs to make ends meet.  Weiland chauffeured models (including his future wife Mary, who was 16 at the time) and got a graphics job by pretending to be a student at the Otis School of Art and Design.  He drove a 1986 Nissan pickup at the time.  For a time Robert worked occasionally as a counter clerk in soda fountains, he later worked at a record store.  Weiland and Dean DeLeo lived together for a time in a flat in Los Angeles, which they believed to be haunted.  The band was thirsty to get outside of Southern California, and when the Seattle Grunge scene broke out in late 1991 and record labels began seeking out alternative rock acts, STP would finally get their shot.  Steve Stewart recalls the band getting signed by Atlantic Records in April 1992, “The band was signed off the Mighty Joe Young cassette, when a very hard-working A&R guy at Atlantic named Tom Carolan came to see them after hearing from his best friend Don Muller, to whom I had given a demo tape and invited to a show. Don became their first booking agent and is one of the top music agents in town today. Tom’s immediate boss was Jason Flom, who also believed very much in the band. Danny was being brought in to run Atlantic on the west coast at that time and was also there for the signing.”

The band all quit their day jobs and began working on Core.  They chose Brendan O’Brien to produce their first album. O’Brien helped the band hone their sound and stay focused on their angsty alternative rock sound that was featured on their Wicked Garden, Where The River Goes, Naked Sunday, and Only Dying demos.  Steve Stewart recalls, “Yes – the best rock producer of that era, Brendan O’Brien, had a lot to do with that. Robert asked me to find him and inquire about producing Core. At that point, the LA scene was dominated by bands like the Chili Peppers and Fishbone, etc., while Seattle was starting to come into its own with a post-punk, stripped-down version of rock.”  O’Brien would go on to produce STP’s first five albums.  Scott Weiland was obsessed with The Doors while recording Core, with Jim Morrison being his main influence.  As the band were finishing the album and deciding on artwork, their lawyer told them that an old blues singer named Mighty Joe Young was making a comeback, so they had to change their name.  Weiland always liked the initials STP from the motor oil logo, and the band initially joked around about the idea of renaming the band Shirley Temple’s Pussy.  They eventually decided on Stone Temple Pilots.

Core was released on September 29, 1992 with the lead single “Sex Type Thing.”  Sex Type Thing was an anti-rape song, with Weiland singing from the perspective of a macho rapist.  In a September 1993 interview with SPIN magazine Scott Weiland recalled the creation of Sex Type Thing, “Dean was out in the front yard of his house in San Diego, washing his car or something, and he was, like, listening to some old Zeppelin song [In the Light].”  Dean described his memory of coming up with the guitar riff and being influenced by the Led Zeppelin song, “’Duh bug ngaow, buh-neh-neh-nah- neh-neh-nao-nhe’ except because the music was inside and I was outside, it sounded different. You know how you can hear music sometimes in a different way? I heard it ‘buh-neh-buh-neh-buh-neh,’ which is like the riff idea to ‘Sex Type Thing,’ and ran in and hit it out on the classical guitar.”  Weiland’s first impression of the riff was, “The first time he played it for me over the phone, it reminded me of an old-style Sonic Youth-ish kind of riff. And when he told me how he got the thing, I was tweaked. Hey, I write songs that way, too.”  Dead and Bloated’s guitar riff was based on an idea Scott Weiland hummed to the band, while the lyrics to “Plush” were written by Weiland and Eric Kretz while they were in a hot tub.  The song was about a woman who had been murdered.  Two of STP’s first shows from the Core era were performing two shows on a side stage at Lollapalooza 1992, Scott Weiland said his voice was hoarse and it was two of the worst shows the band ever played.  At the shows Robert DeLeo introduced himself to Pearl Jam frontman Eddie Vedder and Soundgarden frontman Chris Cornell, both ignored him and shunned him, angering DeLeo.  Core exploded by early 1993 when the Grammy winning “Plush” became a mega hit, and with STP’s new found fame the tensions with their contemporaries up in Seattle increased.  Eddie Vedder told Rolling Stone in 1993, “Beth (Vedder’s first wife) and I were part of the scene in San Diego. We knew what was going on, which was not a lot. Those guys are supposedly from there? I have never heard of them.”  Vedder’s remarks were off the mark, since the full STP lineup featuring Dean DeLeo did not start playing live shows until August 1990, a month before Vedder moved to Seattle.  The band were also based in Los Angeles contrary to media reports, while also playing shows in San Diego and Orange County.  Vedder also claimed Weiland was “coppin his trip.”

These ripoff accusations infuriated STP, who had spent years formulating their sound and paying their dues playing clubs.  Weiland told Metal Hammer Germany in 1994, “I think he burnt his mouth on that one. It’s funny. Dean, my guitarist, has been living in San Diego for ten years. Neither he nor his friends have heard a whole lot about Vedder. As a matter of principle I find it arrogant for a musician to talk down about others. But I have nothing against him, I don’t even know him. His band plays this classic rock that’s too boring for me anyway.”  Weiland was more diplomatic about Vedder in a 1993 interview with Rolling Stone, “I have a lot of respect for Eddie Vedder and the ideals and things he stands for.  As an artist, he’s very valid. But I never really thought that if you put us next to each other, we looked like Siamese twins or anything.  I mean, visually, onstage, I kind of liken myself to a disco-dancing Frank Sinatra – a cross between Perry Como and John Travolta.”  Robert DeLeo also added, regarding the comparisons of STP to Seattle bands, “People get so shallow, thinking that you grabbed your influences from the bands that are out now.  Wouldn’t anybody stop to think that we’re all the same age and we all grew up on the same kind of music?”  Dean DeLeo joked in a May 1993 Metal Hammer Germany interview, “We’re planning to go on tour with Pearl Jam and Alice In Chains, so people can compare us immediately.”

With a hit record, by summer 1993 it was time for STP to plan their first big tour.  The band were offered a chance to open for Aerosmith on an arena tour, but turned it down.  They wanted to play smaller venues that held 2,000-5,000 fans with cheaper ticket prices.  So they put together a festival like tour, titled the Bar-B-Q-Mitz-vah tour with the Butthole Surfers, Flaming Lips, Basehead, and Firehose.  The band had hoped to be part of the 1993 Lollapalooza tour, but weren’t asked.  In a September 1993 interview with Guitar School Dean DeLeo stated, “We didn’t even get asked! We were really let down, because we would have loved to do that gig. So now we’re on the ‘God-I’m-a-loosa’ tour. [laughs] I’m only kidding.”  Despite missing out on Lollapalooza, STP’s summer 1993 tour was one of the most explosive of the summer, and they established themselves as one of the premier live bands in rock.  The band even came out dressed as Kiss at the Roseland Ballroom in New York on August 3, 1993.  That night was also the first time Scott Weiland ever tried heroin, which led to tensions in the band that lasted for a decade.

Later in 1993 STP performed on MTV’s Unplugged.  The acoustic version of “Plush” was a hit, having already being performed earlier in 1993 on MTV.  Atlantic Records wanted the band to record an EP based around an acoustic version of Plush, but the band shot this down, telling the label they didn’t want to be known as the Plush band.  STP debuted “Big Empty” during their Unplugged performance, which ended up appearing on The Crow film soundtrack and Purple.  STP had originally planned on contributing a new version of their 1990 demo “Only Dying” to the soundtrack, but lead star Brandon Lee’s death on set made the band decide to use another song.  Steve Stewart recalls, “I don’t recall a new version of Only Dyin’ actually being recorded, but it might have been. Whatever the case, it is true that we decided to scrap it for The Crow in deference to Brandon Lee’s passing. We negotiated for Big Empty to be in all the trailers for The Crow, which got more attention on TV, than the song got at radio, and the coup was coordinating it to lead the off the record as the first single, while the song was so hot on TV, resulting in a #1 debut for Purple (very narrowly beating out a release by Warren G) in June of 1994. Much of this was pure circumstance, but there was quite a bit of jockeying going on behind the scenes.”  After the Unplugged performance and after the recording of Big Empty, the band headed into the studio to record their second album Purple, marking the end of the Core era.  As of 2012, Core has been certified 8x Platinum in the United States, making it one of the most popular albums of the 90’s alternative rock era.  The album was released 20 years ago today, but songs from Core are still played in heavy rotation today on rock radio.  STP fans continue to debate which of STP’s six albums is their best, but Core will always be remembered as what started it all. While it is enjoyable to look back at Core, let’s hope the ride isn’t over yet and that STP come roaring back with a seventh studio album next year.


Stone Temple Pilots on MTV Unplugged (November 1993)


Wicked Garden (1990 Demo)


Where The River Goes (1990 Demo)


Wicked Garden (September 1993 Live on David Letterman)


Naked Sunday (August 1993 Live at Reading Festival)


Plush (June 1993 Live at MTV Movie Awards)


Naked Sunday (1990 Demo)


Only Dying (1990 Demo)

  • jjc19461

    Wow Brett.

  • BillyL

    Good read.

    At the time when all these comparisons to PJ were being made, I remember borrowing a friend of mine’s copy of “Ten”, because I was always a huge fan of STP since day one, but never really listened to PJ, so I had no idea what the whole thing was about. After listening to “Ten” from front to end a couple of times, I still couldn’t find anything that even remotely sounded like something STP would’ve ripped off. The only thing I found was that STP was definitely more my kind of band and that the whole stupid thing probably didn’t start with a credible fan who actually noticed a similarity, but rather with an unimaginative music journalist who took a cheap shot that the STP guys didn’t deserve and subsequently took a lot of shit for. I’m just glad that STP powered through and made some of the most creative and diverse albums I’ve ever heard. I just hope that at some point, somehow, STP will once again find a way to shine again.

  • http://nemsworld.com Christine

    Excellent read except for the fact that my husband attended Willow Glen High School in San Jose, CA and STP’s drummer attended there as well (so says his yearbook). I don’t see San Jose, CA (NorCal) mentioned. I even did a “find” and didn’t see it.

    *re-reads article

    I have a set of releases between 1988 and 1994 that are not only my favorite discs but (I’m sure by no coincidence) when you flip them over are all either engineered or produced by Brendan O’Brian. He and Rick Ruben have to be the two greatest engineer/producers ever (George Martin being the exception, godfather of all that is engineering and production).

  • Deviate

    I never thought there was any similarities either. I think it was some bullshit started by music journalists.

  • http://nemsworld.com Christine

    PS: having found STP ‘on my own’ (no one turned me onto them I found them myself) while already being a PJ fan I can honestly say that at no point did I ever compare or contrast PJ to STP. STP like Jane’s Addiction was IMHO onto itself unique and vibrant, a complete turn on, and could not be compared to any other band. I’m not sure why the writer was compelled to bring any Vedder strife into it but given that they were all very young I dismiss all of that stuff the same way any manufactured conflict between Cobain and anyone else can be dismissed Some bands hang out together when they play together, others don’t, and do dump them all into the same bucket either from a musical standpoint or from a personality standpoint really takes away from what is important: the music.

    STP still kick major butt lie and anyone with the opportunity to go see them especially in a small venue should find a way to get a ticket by any means necessary and go see them asap.

  • Brett Buchanan

    Christine, thanks for the information. There is little known about Eric Kretz prior to him joining the band. I also just edited in a bit about David Allin, who played drums in one of the early incarnations. It’s not known exactly when he played drums with them, I actually tried contacting him on Facebook but didn’t get a response. I also attempted to e-mail Corey Hikock but his e-mail account was deactivated. This is about as comprehensive a history of STP’s early years I could compile from Scott Weiland’s autobiography, Mary Weiland’s autobiography, the rare 1995 STP mini book by Mick Wall and Malcolm Dome, press interviews with the band, an audio CD interview with Scott Weiland from 1993 I have, and my interview with Steve Stewart.

    I’m sure if Robert, Eric, or Dean would talk to me I could probably fill in many of the blanks. Scott’s book helped a lot but quite a few of his statements in the book are totally wrong, he makes it sound as if Robert and Corey were never in the band together when there are photos in his book of Robert/Corey/Scott/Eric/the keyboardist as Swing in the 80’s and Robert/Scott/Corey/Eric as Mighty Joe Young in May 1990 in his book (I have that photo in the article). His book basically skips 1988-1990, like he doesn’t really remember much of it. Scott’s book has some great stuff but if he’d put some more work into it, it could have been great. Mary Weiland’s book is much more coherent when it tells the story of Scott and STP.

    The Robert meeting Scott at a Black Flag concert and finding out they were dating the same girl is a myth they made up for the press from what I can tell. They both actually may have gone out with a few times/known the girl, but it’s not like they made it seem back then. The jist of really seemed to happen is Scott and Robert had met a few times in the SoCal rock scene and eventually formed a band.

  • Mane ‘n Tail

    Eddie Vedder is such an arrogant sonofabitch. Who the fuck does he think he is amongst his peers? King of the tremolo faggots?

  • Lee Jarrod Evans

    Great article. I remember them being compared to Pearl Jam. The vocal dept was the only thing remotely similar to me and I think that had more to do with them both (vedder and weiland) copping a bit of their style from Jim Morrison than anything else. Like Weiland said, they both came from the same generation so they had the same influences. Vedder was def talking out of his ass when he said all that shit dissing STP. Wonder if he ever wised up or apologized to STP…. No matter, STP proved their versatility and originality for me, especially after Purple. anyone got any links to that first demo tape (the one with the original versions of some Core tunes)? Id be interested to hear it…

  • Brett Buchanan

    Lee, I just edited in the demos (that I also posted last month) and some live videos.

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  • Superunknown

    I always wonder how much bigger STP and Weiland could of became if it wasn’t for the drugs…it’s a damn shame. These could probably would of never broke up, had a lot more albums to their credit, and Scott Weiland could of had a more successful career with a lot of years ahead of him. It doesn’t look good for him now.

  • Brett Buchanan

    Scott’s problems definitely hurt them. If they had stuck it out all of these years without any of their hiatuses and they were more fan friendly, they’d probably have something closer to Pearl Jam’s fan base compared to what they have now.

    On topic regarding the Core 20th Anniversary, STP really missed the boat with doing nothing about it. I’m fine with no Core tour, I’d prefer them to be working on a new album, but they could have put out a big deluxe reissue like Pearl Jam did with the actual album with the Mighty Joe Young demos, a bonus DVD/CD featuring their MTV Unplugged performance, they could have even re-recorded Only Dying and released it as a radio single to promote the reissue. If they had done all of that I think you’d see a lot of people talking about them right now, which could give them momentum for a new album. It’s just really sad that even RIGHT NOW these guys could be experiencing much more success than they have right now even after all their mistakes, yet they continue to make the same mistakes over and over and over again

  • Crazies

    Good work Brett.

  • Shadow on the Sun

    great article Brett.

    The STP album i listen to least is Core. I personally feel everything after that album is better, even if just because they captured pop and rock in a bottle and were able to make them coexist in a nearly perfect way. Press Play i find more musically interesting than most of what they did on Core, but you have to cut your teeth somewhere.

  • Clint

    “On topic regarding the Core 20th Anniversary, STP really missed the boat with doing nothing about it. I’m fine with no Core tour, I’d prefer them to be working on a new album, but they could have put out a big deluxe reissue like Pearl Jam did with the actual album with the Mighty Joe Young demos, a bonus DVD/CD featuring their MTV Unplugged performance, they could have even re-recorded Only Dying and released it as a radio single to promote the reissue. If they had done all of that I think you’d see a lot of people talking about them right now, which could give them momentum for a new album. It’s just really sad that even RIGHT NOW these guys could be experiencing much more success than they have right now even after all their mistakes, yet they continue to make the same mistakes over and over and over again.”

    I could not agree with this more Brett, there are so many pre-recorded/filmed things in the archives, such as Unplugged, the Shangri La De Da documentary and the coffee table book that was talked about, that this band (my favorite of all time) could put out there for us die hard fans to keep us happy whilst they get their shit together and hopefully record a new album. I am really, really hoping they don’t break up again as i am such a fan and feel they have loads to offer still but just seem to constantly lose direction.

  • TheGrungeGirl

    First I would like to say I love STP!! Sure they made mistakes along the way, but that is called being human. Sure they could have done things a little different & made other choices. They chose not to & that is just fine. They had their reasons & I respect that. I love their music & true fans shouldn’t be sitting around questioning the what if’s & deciding what they should have done. Just sit back & enjoy the great music they did put out. That is the whole point. That is what music is all about man. Let’s just be glad we have got to enjoy what STP did give to us & continue to rock out!!!
    Peace Love & rock-n-roll

  • Brett Buchanan

    TheGrungeGirl, you make a great point. While STP have made poor business and fan related decisions, none of it has ever hurt the music. All six of their albums are fantastic to me.

  • Stosh

    Info dense and well written. Nice article.

  • GenXLady

    Great article, Brett. You really researched STP. Always cool to read about the individual band members that find each other in the world, have a magic chemistry, and make good music. Well done!

  • Rare Flower

    Is this the Headline for today?….

    Give me a break…I thought this was GRUNGE Reporte, the headline should have been “Dirt: Timeless Classic in retrospective”…

    STP are not grunge…for God Sake!!!

    Alice In Chains deserve more respect Bret! But well it is your goddamn website…

  • Brett Buchanan

    GrungeReport.net is a 90’s Alternative Rock site, that’s what it says right there when you go on the site for every story.

    Core and Dirt are equally important albums. Core is the headline story because I wrote an in-depth retrospective about it, and it was STP’s debut album while Dirt was AIC’s second. We did a seven part retrospective on Alice In Chains/Layne Staley earlier this year, most of which were headline stories. There is also plenty of information out there regarding the recording of Dirt and it’s subsequent tour, and on Alice In Chains’ formative years.

    STP’s formative years and path to Core are not well documented at all (many haters like to act as if they all picked up musical instruments for the first time the moment they heard Ten) and there was a lot of mystery surrounding it, which is why I thought this would be a really intriguing topic to tackle.

  • MAYAN CALENDAR 2012

    DAMM IT , MAYBE STONE TEMPLE PILOTS WERE REALLY THE TRUE ORIGIN OF AMERICAN GRUNGE ROCK MUSIC RIGHT FOLKS? :) I MEAN , THIS BAND WORKED HARD, PLAYED HARD AND TRIED THEIR BEST TO PROVE THEY ARE NO IMITATION, THEY ARE NO PRETENDERS , THEY WERE AND STILL ARE THE GREATEST ROCK BAND ON EARTH , WELL SECOND TO THAT OF THE BEATLES, ROLLING STONES, THE WHO, LED ZEPPLIN AND AC/DC, THE RAMONES TOO LOL :)

    SCOTT WITH SO MUCH HISTORY BEHIND YOU AND THE BAND , WHY BREAK UP NOW ?
    :( YOU MUST KEEP GOING

    THE MAYANS GODS HAVE SPOKEN, STP MUST CONTINUE ON INTO THE YEAR 2013 , OR ELSE THE WORLD WILL END ON DEC 21, 2012

    THATS GLOBAL BLACKMAIL AGAINST STP FOR WANTING TO QUIT 😉

  • MAYAN CALENDAR 2012

    THE NEW GRUNGE REUNIONS OF 2010 – 2012 HAVE TURNED OUT TO BE GRUDGE REUNIONS INSTEAD 😉

    HAHAHA

  • MAYAN CALENDAR 2012

    DAMM IT, SCOTT WEILAND :( NOW IM THRISTY FOR SOME 7UP LEMON LIME SODA :)

  • zobi

    they suck, lame greatest hits(?) band, get over them. PJ is the real deal.

  • Iso

    Is that really you sweetheart? MAYAN “Double Anal” CALENDOUCHE spouting off some things that sound remotely supportive? Used to suppose your fucking caps-lock button was broken, now, we don’t at all give a fuck. Got your favorite sandwich waiting for you handsome- tomato, lettuce and dick on rye…

  • Raj

    After Nirvana, STP and Alice Chains are my two other favourite bands. Core is definitely an amazing album with great songs like Sex Type Thing, Plush, Dead and Bloated, Crackerman, etc. It came out roughly one year after Nirvana’s Nevermind. I never thought STP ever sounded like PJ, Weiland and Vedder have different voices. I don’t Vedder is a bad guy, he and Cornell were probably skeptical back then of a band playing that type of music outside of Seattle. I’m pretty sure all the 90’s singers are all pretty good friends. I like all the STP albums, even the last one was impressive because it sounded like a blues/rock album. The great thing about STP is that their sound is very diverse.

  • Millz

    I saw STP in 1996. They were so great that night. Played for like 2.5 hours. Just hit song after hit song. Plus all the songs that should have been hits. Really put the concert together, setlist and production. Weiland had only been arrested once at this point in his career and was now a changed man for the better. Everytime I saw them live after that it just seemed worse and worse. It seemed like the setlist was shorter, their was no production to the show, the band seemed to care a little less everytime. Plus Weiland had become tabloid fodder. I love the first 3 albums plus Scott’s 1st solo record, but after the 4th album I think the band stopped caring and then the fans stopped caring. I’m still rooting for them though. I think Weiland is a major part of the problem with his “don’t care” attitude toward his band and his fans. It happened with STP and Velvet Revolver didn’t it??

  • http://www.nonexistentreality.blogspot.com Scott McLean

    I’m very impressed by your writing and I’ll have to read more when I don’t have late-night tired eyes. Thanks.

  • Chainsgarden

    STP and PJ sound nothing alike. But then again they both use guitars, drums, a bass and a lead singer so I can see how some people can compare them being the same. Freakin morons. AIC, Soundgarden,Pj,and STP all sound different.

  • ShaneC

    I remember saying to me, when I was 14, “you know that the singer for Pearl Jam and Stone Temple Pilots are the same guy, right?”

    At the time, my favourite band was PJ. I had to find out for myself, so I picked up Core…and I had a new favourite band.

    oh, and just top let everyone know…they aren’t the same singer.

  • ShaneC

    ^^^

    I swear I’m sober.

  • dakotablue

    A little note to all the moaners commenting up-thread about how Scott and band could’ve/should’ve done a lot more/better etc. except for the frikkin’ drugs:
    you know a lot of fantastic artists have been haunted souls who shared their awesome talents with us in between fixes or drinks or whatever
    Layne Staley comes to mind of course, Kurt, Shannon and many many more
    I’m just thankful we had them for however long and RIP
    hope Scott can beat it and stick around

    good job on this, Brett

  • Dennis

    This was great Brett. Thanks for the good work as always.

  • ejsme

    Awesome job Brett! I got nostalgic reading that. I hope they do something big for the Purple anniversary!

  • chris pepper

    It was cool you got Steve Stewart to comment, but hard to ignore that you wrote a story about Core w/out talking with Brenden o Brien or the guys in the band themselves. Much of this stuff is total regurgitation of what’s already out there. Cool idea, good writing, poor execution.

  • http://www.libertycolumns.com Dan

    Didn’t the “PJ ripoff” thing have something to do with “Which came first, Plush or Dissident?”

  • sott

    Great Read. I’ve been a fan for 20 years – I worked at a CD store in Rockville, MD and this CD came into our store in late 1992. I thought it blew PJAM and Nirvana away. Still do. One of my favorite albums of all time. Seen STP around 10 times and the last time, in 2010, they were as good as ever. Scott’s voice was solid…but yes, aged. I loved the STP 2010 album and hope they put out more.
    One of the best Rock bands ever.

  • Brett Buchanan

    Chris, this year members of STP only did two interviews. Dean did a radio interview and Robert did an interview with Stereogum, and in neither interview did they talk about anything of substance regarding STP. The only interview Scott has done this year is that interview where he talked about that full fledged Velvet Revolver reunion that never ended up happening. If I could talk to them I would. I put every single thing about STP I could find in here, not everybody has read every book or searched the little nooks of the internet to find all of this information.

  • MatYellott

    Great piece! STP is actully my favorite band, usually of a Friday night (after an extended happy hour(s)!) I will pop in the new live in Chicago Bluray or the Alice in Chains unplugged dvd and just sit there and watch. I also have a bootleg of the Rolling Rock and HOB shows. For me personally Rolling Rock is one of the best shows of all time. With Scott running around during “Tripping” and “Plush” he is in full rockstar mode. There is a scence durning Scott singing “Tripping” where a women throws her underware in Scott’s face and without missing a beat her whipes his face with it and throws it back at her… pure rockstar.

  • morcegohoman

    The band needs to take a page out of Soundgarden’s recent playbook, and that is to establish an online presence. In the past couple of years Soundgarden has “relaunched” and they have a new website and email announcements, etc. Stonetemplepilots.com is just a bunch of old news. It wouldn’t hurt for a band member to post something once in a while either. The last time I signed up (and paid $45)for the fan club to be notified of a presale (last summer)….there wasn’t even a presale. I got 6 shot glasses with the $30 gift store coupon though…FAIL. I mean…the internet is everything now. It is TV, it is news, it is the phone book. STP…pay somebody to run your website and keep it current! You’re like the opposite of Radiohead online. Louis CK could teach you a thing or two about the $$$ you’re missing out on too. You aren’t online, you aren’t PRESENT.

  • morcegohoman

    Also….keep putting out albums! Make it more forward thinking and less retrospective. This was a great article (best I’ve ever read and I’ve seen the band 10 times, flew to Chicago for the Riviera show, etc.), but it rightfully has a “best days are gone” feel to it. You don’t get that feel when you read stuff about the Rolling Stones, or U2, or other bands that keep putting out material.

    And now Weiland wants to get together with VR again. Maybe that’s the big reason. I’ve always been more of a DeLeo Bros. fan anyway.
    Where are you boys? Start a webpage or something!

  • Boom

    Great to read. Great record. Great band.
    The Great Weiland.

    Boom go !!

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