Alice In Chains & Pantera Members React To Confederate Flag Controversy

The Confederate flag and it’s symbolism is the subject and a very heated debate in not only the southern Untied States, but in the entire country. This comes following the massacre of nine African Americans by a Dylann Roof, a white gunman in a Charleston, South Carolina church last month.

Members of Alice In Chains and Pantera took to the internet to weigh in on the recent Confederate Battle Flag controversy. Both had different reactions regarding the subject:

Pantera drummer Vinnie Paul Abbott says that the controversy over the Confederate flag is merely a “knee-jerk reaction to something that happened” and it encroaches on people’s freedom-of-expression rights in a new interview with Sticks For Stones

Abbott continued: “Honestly, this country was built on freedom of speech and freedom of expression, and when you can no longer do that, then it is no longer based on that, you know. It’s a touchy thing, you know, and that’s really all I’m going to say about it. I just think that it doesn’t follow what the country was built on [and] what it was based on. To me, that blows, but that’s how it, is man.”

This isn’t the first time the Pantera member went on to defend the controversial flag, In another recent interview, this time with HardRockHaven, Abbott was quoted in saying:

“It’d be like, Would we be flying the Nazi flag? I don’t think so, because flags are looked at whether it be nationalism or symbols of something. Truthfully, it’s like…I wish fucking everyone would get along.”

On the other side of the coin, Alice In Chains frontman William DuVall had differing views on the flag and took to Twitter to make his views known:

“[The flag] shouldn’t represent us in any way,” Tom Petty told Rolling Stone. “It’s like how a swastika looks to a Jewish person.”

  • Ricky Dot Shade

    The one who said “It’d be like, Would we be flying the Nazi flag?” was Phil Anselmo.

  • Corndog

    I really don’t know much of anything about what that flag represents. When i see it, all i can think of is the General Lee from The Dukes Of Hazzard.

    • Eddie Yarler

      Maybe I wasn’t paying attention but has this been a long lasting issue? I feel like less people are more concerned with racism,but more want to be a part of some political stance. I’m sure there are many people who want the flag taken down because it was a symbol of slavery but there are even MORE people who just want to come off like they stand for something. Honestly this just comes off as ‘the next big thing’ people latch onto’ so they can point the bigot finger, the Bruce Jenner thing preceding it.

      • Corndog

        I honestly don’t know. I didn’t even realise it had anything to do with slavery. Just found that out over the last few days.

        • john henry

          What are you new or something. You are a example of why America is doomed because of stupidity.

          • Corndog

            Work it out dumbass. I’m NOT American, nor have I ever had cause to study American history. It wasn’t rocket science to figure that out. You are an example of why mankind is doomed, because of stupidity…..
            I could show you several flags pertaining to my country and its history and I doubt you’d know what a single one of them meant.
            What, I’m obligated to automatically know what every flag from every damn country means otherwise I’m ‘ stupid’? Yeah, makes sense… Pull your head out of your ass. America isn’t the whole world!

          • Ben

            What! America isn’t the whole World! Oh man I must have been living some place else! πŸ˜›

          • Thelonious Funk

            Because of this post, we’re cool now, bro

          • Corndog

            Well i’m glad to hear that, but how come? What did i say to make you feel that way?

          • Thelonious Funk

            I dunno. Your viewpoint on America in these posts is more understanding of the overall issue at hand, and not just “their gun laws are dumb and fucked up”

            I’ll be the first to admit that America is an arrogant, fucked up place. I get pretty embarrassed by some of the shit that happens here that the rest of the world must see and scratch their heads about. We probably have way more freedom than we know what to do with

            But it’s also the greatest country in the world because of those freedoms, imo. It’s just a shame that some Americans take those freedoms and use them in the wrong ways, and it winds up representing all of us

          • Corndog

            I think perhaps if you knew where I’m from you’d understand why I’m so against people having access to guns. As I’ve said, it was never intended as any kind of slight against America.Yes I disagree with your gun laws, but I like America. It’s where all the cool shit comes from. Any country that can produce your uncle Eddie, and Star Trek, is fine by me. I think it’s entirely possible to hold both positions.

          • Thelonious Funk

            Of course I understand that. I never said it was exclusive to the U.S. I merely stated where the country most known for it, because we have so much of it. And because we abuse it so often (which I don’t agree with)

            I respect your viewpoints on our gun laws. But as I’ve said before, it goes deeper than just having access to guns by a means of walking into a store and buying a gun. There are background checks and license paperwork that tie up the process of legally obtaining a gun for months at a time.

            A parent buying a gun for his psycho child…you can’t blame that on our gun laws, is all I’m saying. Sandy Hook…Charleston…those were weapons essentially supplied to the shooters by their family members. It’s a vicious cycle. A guy I work with was just saying yesterday how he “needs to invest in a gun” because of the Tennessee shootings a few days ago. That was a Kuwaiti terrorist behind that shooting. You can’t regulate EVERY adult who tries to purchase a firearm just because they *might* be a lunatic

            I’m generally on your side with the whole gun craze issue though. Stop pointing the finger at shitty guns laws and just ban fucking guns in America, prohibition-style. They did it in Australia after Martin Bryant’s Port Arthur massacre in 1996.

            But would it work in America? Doubtful. People would still find ways to obtain weapons illegally, to the point where it would be an enterprise like drug trafficking.

          • Eddie Yarler

            Ya know you could have done something like briefly explained to him some issues about the flag and maybe even provided a link to a website with more information but instead you acted like a smug douche. I don’t blame most people for not knowing two shits about that stupid flag for the main reason being the flag is less about slavery now, and more so just about hillbilly southern shit. People are bitching about what it USED to represent which I find really dull. In three months people will be whining about something else.

          • Thelonious Funk

            OH LOOK! ANOTHER AMERICAN HATER! ANOTHER AMERICAN HATER! WE’RE ALL FAT AND DUMB BECAUSE WE HAVE FREEDOMS YOU DON’T, LIKE GUNS AND CONFEDERATE FLAGS!

            BACK UP THE IGNORANT TRUCK! BEE-DOO-BEE-DOO-BEE-DOO…

          • GSUSHC

            You again with your dumb racist ass ignorant point of view….when the fuck are you gonna crawl back under that rock and stop breathing the air that was meant for us?

          • Thelonious Funk

            Woo hoo hoo! Funny shit, bro. Hateful any? : )

          • GSUSHC

            Errrm. … I think the fact that you’re a racist trumps anything else.
            think about it, if there were two of you in this world would the world be better off or worst off for it, If your answer is worst off, then what the fuck is one of you breathing for?

          • Thelonious Funk

            Your assertion that I’m a racist is based purely on speculation. I merely flipped Kanye’s stereotyping back around on him — turnabouts fair play — and you’re assuming I hate black people.
            I have a black cousin, you dipshit. He’s like my best friend, too.
            Meanwhile, you’re the one tooting your little anti-American horn around here every chance you get. FACT: it can be proven.
            So while it’s perfectly fine by me if you assume I’m a racist, I’ll just assume you’re a terrorist because you dislike America. Sound good?

          • GSUSHC

            The problem with people like you is you don’t know who you are. I take it you didn’t have seen. With you cousins mum so he is in your family because of someone else and not by your choice. The fact that you say you aren’t a racist after spouting your blatant racist point of views time and time again just be cause you have a cousin of color is like saying George Bush and all his sad fucking chums weren’t racist be they worked closely with condalisa rice.

            Talk to you cousin the same way you spout your racist mouth off on here and if he’s not a pushy see how quick he knocks you the fuck ou, and the sad part is you have no idea how racist you are, especially in the climate of police executions and mass murders of black people by the ones you seem to be sympathising with…..and before you say you’re not, what the fuck do you think the general Lee flag is truly about and why would you want to support something like that?

            As far as me hating the USA, I don’t I just think the country that is founded and built on genocide, slavery, greed and racism is not a place i would aspire to be from!

          • Thelonious Funk

            Between your piss-poor grammar and your groundless assertions that I’m a racist, it’s getting incredibly annoying to even attempt to make sense of what you’re trying to say here.

            “the country that is founded and built on genocide, slavery, greed and racism is not a place i would aspire to be from!”

            Yea, because I had a choice in which country I came from, right? I was able to pick that shit before I was born.

            It’s both amusing and incredible to watch you accuse me of racism and then turn around and come out with some stereotypical shit like this. I guess all Germans born in Germany are nazis because they’re from Germany too, right? I guess in your world all Japanese people are racist savages because of what they did to the Chinese in the 1930s, right?

            WRONG. Way to look like a complete and utter moron, dude. Keep that shit up…it feels good to laugh this hard.

            By the way…my cousin frequently calls me his “nigga for life”. Does that make him a racist, too? How about all those other African Americans out there calling each other “nigga”. That’s racism too, isn’t it?

            Good luck finding a way out of that corner you just painted yourself into.

          • GSUSHC

            It makes your cousin and other black people who use that word totally idiotic actually and it does nothing but perpetuates a negative view of the people using it.

            If Germany and those other countries you mentioned went around proudly brandishing swastikas the equivalent, they would be just as bad as the people in the south brandishing the general Lee flag. They have learnt from the past and only the ones that didn’t are proud of that suit aka the general Lee flag.
            I am aware that it was no your choice to be born here but, it is your choice to hold the points of view that you project, which makes you sound very insular.
            If you don’t want to come off as a racist, change your point of view because as a faceless person on the Web, that’s exactly what you appear to be. Don’t take my word for it, show this thread to your cousin and then tell him who your username is and see what he has to say to you!

          • Thelonious Funk

            That’s the funny part of all this, actually: if I showed this to my cousin, he;d find nothing wrong with it because he knows I’m not a racist and he knows that Kanye is a moron who makes ill-advised remarks

            Then he’d see you getting all mad about a “faceless person on the internet” and probably laugh his ass off at the time you’ve wasted arguing about this

            I love black people. And Asian people. And all people, really. Until they do dumb shit. Like make ignorant remarks about the drummer from Foo Fighters looking like he’s in the wrong neighborhood. Or some asswipe shooting up a negro church. Or some dude on AltNation assuming Americans are pieces of crap just because you have a gripe with some of our laws

          • GSUSHC

            Enough of you already child, remember that rock I mentioned earlier, go and crawl back underneath and don’t come back out until the sun comes down.

          • Thelonious Funk

            Had enough? Lol okay then. See you next time you need a reality check, bub

          • GSUSHC

            Like I eluded to on another thread to you, it is tiring debating with a child about life when that child hasn’t lived yet.

            I also said something else to you on a previous thread….yep you guessed it, “you can fuck off now”.

          • Thelonious Funk

            Thank god you realized I was tired of educating you on your crass American viewpoints. Wise of you to lay down your sword to avert further embarrassment on this site

          • GSUSHC

            Actually he’s one of Americas salvations…..he has the ability to realise and admit that he doesn’t know something and the go out and learn about it…..don’t curse him, applaud him!

          • Corndog

            But I’m not American. That’s why I knew nothing about that flag. Thanks for the applause though:)

          • GSUSHC

            Neither am I but I knew about thegflag ever since my mate got a DO general Lee bmx frame years ago, before that I just associated it with dukes of hazard like most but I know a whole lot about slavery and racism now!

  • Philippe Gaudet

    Well I guess then fuck Vinnie Paul Abbott. Period.

    • Billy

      i think maybe somebody should tell Vinnie that racism isn’t something that should be defended as free speech. Logic dictates that if you defend racism, then you probably share those views as well.

      • Philippe Gaudet

        Amen to that bro!

  • Poltergeist

    Not everyone sees that flag as a symbol of racism, I think it is more about heritage to some in a certain area of the country and like it or not, that flag is a very significant piece of American history and the relatives of confederate soldiers have a right to wave that flag in memory of their fallen ancestors if they want to.

  • GSUSHC

    Anyone who thinks America country where you can be free is a fucking idiot!

    • Thelonious Funk

      “Anyone who thinks America country where you can be free is a fucking idiot!”

      Says the guy who can’t even form a coherent sentence correctly. Another bitter, misinformed asshole is all you come across as. Name me ONE country in the world today where people can be as free as they are in America.

      • http://Boom.com Boom

        The country where the freedom is best is the Canada.

        Boom out!!

        • Thelonious Funk

          This actually makes a bit of sense. I can jive with that

          • http://Boom.com Boom

            This because Boom always making the sense of all things. You smart human doing the agree with Boom.